The next PM.

[SocketRocket]

It's just part of the game they are both playing where they are trying to appeal to the most ardent Daily Telegraph reading hard brexiting little Englander who will make them Tory leader and also the more moderate ones who they need on side to get any majority when the upcoming general election happens. Without definitely pledging anything concrete of substance as they know most of the stuff they are inferring won't actually happen.

The bold part suggests you are as pigeon holed as those you belittle. Sad reflection of the desperate way so many are prepared to use divisive slander to devalue people with opposing views. So sad.

 

[Hobbit]

The bold part suggests you are as pigeon holed as those you belittle. Sad reflection of the desperate way so many are prepared to use divisive slander to devalue people with opposing views. So sad.

A massive big like for that!

I accept his political persuasion, especially as mine isn't too far away from it, but his supercilious attitude to anyone who dares be a bit to the right is so very disappointing in one so obviously intelligent.

By all means disagree with someone's politics, but belittling them for it.... so sad

 

[Hacker Khan]

The bold part suggests you are as pigeon holed as those you belittle. Sad reflection of the desperate way so many are prepared to use divisive slander to devalue people with opposing views. So sad.

My bad, they seem a sensible bunch to me who are by no means obsessed with brexit over anything else.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...conservative-members-would-see-party-destroye

 

[SocketRocket]

My bad, they seem a sensible bunch to me who are by no means obsessed with brexit over anything else.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...conservative-members-would-see-party-destroye

You now change masks and don the one of sarcasm. Neither do you any credit.

Regarding your attached article. I can see why people with strong democratic principals would put execution of a democratic national vote before party. Why would such principals require them to be described as 'obsessive' surely your sarcastic castigation of their view can be seen as obsessive.

I suggest that your modus operandi is used more to promote your own ego than form a reasonable debate.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

That's not accurate. He was asked loads of off-the-wall questions, one of which was his position on hunting. He merely said that it was way down in his priorities but if there was pressure too have another debate he would give the House a free vote. At no point did he say he'd like to see it return

well Hunt has to do something to try and get the Remain voting Tories in his Surrey-Hants borders constituency back on side. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that a Hunt PM taking the UK out of the EU without a withdrawal agreement could lose his seat at any subsequent GE.

 

[SocketRocket]

well Hunt has to do something to try and get the Remain voting Tories in his Surrey-Hants borders constituency back on side. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that a Hunt PM taking the UK out of the EU without a withdrawal agreement could lose his seat at any subsequent GE.

There will be plenty of other safe seats for him when the wets have been deselected.

 

[Tashyboy]

I see five ex met gaffers have slated theresa May for slashing police numbers.
Meanwhile Jezza Hunt says.
"austerity did go too far on police numbers", adding there has since been "a rise in knife crime" and "we need to do something about that".

Now without stating the obvious. He would of got more kudos from me if he had said it whilst TM was actually cutting police numbers

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

There will be plenty of other safe seats for him when the wets have been deselected.

aye - there is nothing like democracy in the UK is there...ye cannae beat it.

 

[SocketRocket]

aye - there is nothing like democracy in the UK is there...ye cannae beat it.

What's not democratic about it. If you wish to stand as a prospective representative MP for a constituancy then you have to hold their confidence. If the current incumbent doesnt do that they are free to select another.

 

[gmc40]

I see five ex met gaffers have slated theresa May for slashing police numbers.
Meanwhile Jezza Hunt says.
"austerity did go too far on police numbers", adding there has since been "a rise in knife crime" and "we need to do something about that".

Now without stating the obvious. He would of got more kudos from me if he had said it whilst TM was actually cutting police numbers

I thought it was all Sadiq Khans fault?

 

[SocketRocket]

I see five ex met gaffers have slated theresa May for slashing police numbers.
Meanwhile Jezza Hunt says.
"austerity did go too far on police numbers", adding there has since been "a rise in knife crime" and "we need to do something about that".

Now without stating the obvious. He would of got more kudos from me if he had said it whilst TM was actually cutting police numbers

Tashy, the police numbers were being cut by Labour and continued through the ConDem pact. Wasn't all May's doing.

 

[Tashyboy]

Tashy, the police numbers were being cut by Labour and continued through the ConDem pact. Wasn't all May's doing.

No arguements from me SR, but the consequences of knife crime, people scared to go on streets etc have magnified under TM as Home sec and PM.

 

[Tashyboy]

I thought it was all Sadiq Khans fault?

In London yes 😉

 

[Hobbit]

In London yes 😉

He admitted it in an LBC interview recently. As well as mayor, he is also the Police commissioner for London.

 

[Fade and Die]

aye - there is nothing like democracy in the UK is there...ye cannae beat it.

Thanks to you and your ilk there is nothing like democracy in the U.K. at the moment...

 

[SocketRocket]

No arguements from me SR, but the consequences of knife crime, people scared to go on streets etc have magnified under TM as Home sec and PM.

IMO the crime is nothing to do with Police numbers. When a person pulls a knife and uses it you cannot expect the police to stop the stabbing, they can only find and charge the criminal. They seem to be good at this already.
They can stop and search suspects of carrying weapons but get critised by the Yogurt Huggers when they do that, the same people whinging that we need more Police on the streets.

This knife and gun crime IMO has deeper roots than Police numbers. Most areas of the country dont have high knife/Gun crime and we have to ask ourselves why some do. The answer from the normal suspects will be that it's due to Austerity, poverty, police numbers, the Torys, lack of youth clubs, no jobs and so on and so forth ad nauseum. My opinion is that this type of crime has cultural roots and that's where we should be looking and considering what needs changing. It's the Kings Suit of Clothes syndrome.

 

[gmc40]

He admitted it in an LBC interview recently. As well as mayor, he is also the Police commissioner for London.

He admitted what? That it’s all his fault?

 

[gmc40]

IMO the crime is nothing to do with Police numbers. When a person pulls a knife and uses it you cannot expect the police to stop the stabbing, they can only find and charge the criminal. They seem to be good at this already.
They can stop and search suspects of carrying weapons but get critised by the Yogurt Huggers when they do that, the same people whinging that we need more Police on the streets.

This knife and gun crime IMO has deeper roots than Police numbers. Most areas of the country dont have high knife/Gun crime and we have to ask ourselves why some do. The answer from the normal suspects will be that it's due to Austerity, poverty, police numbers, the Torys, lack of youth clubs, no jobs and so on and so forth ad nauseum. My opinion is that this type of crime has cultural roots and that's where we should be looking and considering what needs changing. It's the Kings Suit of Clothes syndrome.

What culture?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What culture?

He means the “immigrants” prob the Muslim culture as well , everything that is wrong with the country is down to immigrants , those dirty foreigners increasing our population

 

[Fade and Die]

He means the “immigrants” prob the Muslim culture as well , everything that is wrong with the country is down to immigrants , those dirty foreigners increasing our population

Strong stuff Phil!.... you had a drink?