Mel Smooth
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The key isn't rollback, it's tightening up the courses. We've already seen on other tours this year that long hitters are nullified if the course is suitably laid out.
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The key isn't rollback, it's tightening up the courses. We've already seen on other tours this year that long hitters are nullified if the course is suitably laid out.
I think it's dual approach, there is no single silver bullet. Whilst I agree with tightening a course, that impacts the people who play there normally as the course would need to be tricked up in the weeks / months leading up to the tournament. Not everyone is up to making that sacrifice. It also rules out courses that simply don't have that dynamic.
A bit of both would work nicely.
We saw this at the Valspar Copperhead too. Tightening helps, and hole design is a significant factor as well. Some of the holes there really rewarded placement and distance control. Its a reason Hovland was able to profit.
Surely not an issue at Augusta. If the members don't like it surely they would be spoken to and a simple threat to remove membership would quell any tut-tutting
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Well think they still need to run to rules of golf
There was talk about roll back etc but not sure where that is now
Its coming in 3 years. And will affect those guys in a real way.
Augusta doesn't have rough though, does it? Nothing so common at that course
. It would need different things at different courses and as Hovland pointed out on Sunday, Augusta is an open, bombers course, his words. They are not suddenly going to narrow it down after all of these years.
Sadly I agree. The shaved banks back to the creeks and run offs do penalise some shots but basically bomb it as far as you can without fear as there is normally a way out. Only the very wild ones seem to have tree trouble. Not a lot else they can do to make if defendableAugusta doesn't have rough though, does it? Nothing so common at that course
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I would say the greens are the defence. Generally, a bomber who can't putt isn't going to win there.
But hasn't it been said in commentary the more you play the greens the more players learn about the nuances and the speed. You have to do it on the weekend but are they still as scary as they once were
Yes, the greens are the key to Augusta. While the no, or more recent, first cut, rough seem its defining characteristic, and inviting bombing, it is the slopes and speeds of the greens that provide the test. And more than just with the putter itself on them. They are more exacting in iron, spin, and trajectory control. Hitting it onto the correct level, from the correct side, etc are crucial. In most golf, hitting the green itself, then to what distance from the hole, tells much of the story. But at Augusta, the where on the greens in much more important than almost any other course.
rksquire
Head Pro
That's excellent - am tempted by this! It's a credit against your next trip, but if Rory does it and you get 2 trips, everyone is a winner!
Ahhh.....the Masters is on in April buddy. You are not going to see Rory in a Sunday Masters hunt in September !
'And you pay in full and early' is the key part of the quote. Pay before the Masters, or whenever they specify, actually go whenever.
Canfordhacker
Q-School Graduate
Trip is booked and paid for. If Rory wins at Augusta, we basically get a second trip for free.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
My ears!!!!
howbow88
Hacker
No need for the insurance.
We won be able to move over the next fortnight without hearing Dave Loggins (RIP). It seems to get earlier every year.
simsini
Well-known member
Sky Sports need to bring back the music for the ad breaks that goes 'Oh Georgia'. Who's with me?
Grizzly
Well-known member
Can they be? Yes, certainly - when they get up to the mid-teens or higher on the stimp they give even the very best players the heebie jeebies.
Are they? Thats more debateable - I'm not sure if this is climate related or just a statistical quirk, but it has been a few years now since we have had a dry and storm free Masters period, so they have tended to be somewhat softer as a result.
