The Footie Thread

[Arthur Wedge]

They showed it repeatedly yesterday and nothing was conclusive. It may have brushed a fingernail, it may not. Nothing clear so the refs decision stands. How it should be.

Still whining the day after is avoiding how poor you were yesterday. That's why you lost, the rest is just avoidance.

No one said it was the reason why we lost

No one is “avoiding how poor we were” - that was stated yesterday how bad we were and in fact the whole game

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Basically Paul, I'm fed up with VAR and the endless toing and froing it creates.

There is prob more discussion on var than there is on anything else

VAR was supposed to remove the issues - it’s actually created more

 

[Old Boy]

Yet plenty have said that they can see the evidence that the ball was touched - more than enough evidence to show the ball was touched

It’s not the first time and won’t be the last time VAR ref has got it wrong

And plenty ( including the VAR officials) have said that they can't see conclusive evidence so the onfield decision stood.

 

[anotherdouble]

Totally agree and we saw that clearly midweek in the Champions League. How we can be part of UEFA and have Officials making different decisions for the same incident is wrong.

For me, if a ball hits another part of the body and rebounds into a players hand then it should be deemed accidental, like Sesko yesterday he never intentionally touched the ball.

Sadly though it is the law we are stuck with hence trying to force VAR to make the “correct” decision and then VAR getting the stick.

What makes me laugh, if it’s a defender in the penalty area it’s deemed accidental and no penalty but if it’s an attacker it’s deemed accidental but no goal. To level it out it should either be a penalty or no goal. I didn’t see the game. Am only alluding to what happened from reading thread

 

[PaulMdj]

There is prob more discussion on var than there is on anything else

VAR was supposed to remove the issues - it’s actually created more

It hasn’t created more though has it?

Prior to VAR we just accepted the result and moaned, moaned for decades in some cases.

The only issues we moan about now are the controversial ones, nobody moans when VAR gets it correct or posts acknowledging VAR getting their side a penalty or disallowing a goal against them correctly.

VAR isn’t the issue with yesterdays possible handball or red card, it’s the telly clappers not willing to accept they have got it wrong.

 

[PaulMdj]

What makes me laugh, if it’s a defender in the penalty area it’s deemed accidental and no penalty but if it’s an attacker it’s deemed accidental but no goal. To level it out it should either be a penalty or no goal. I didn’t see the game. Am only alluding to what happened from reading thread

Agree, and to make it worse we have the situation were if an attacker accidentally handles the ball and a team mate scores, that’s a goal.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

What makes me laugh, if it’s a defender in the penalty area it’s deemed accidental and no penalty but if it’s an attacker it’s deemed accidental but no goal. To level it out it should either be a penalty or no goal. I didn’t see the game. Am only alluding to what happened from reading thread

That’s about the crux of the mess of the handball rule

It should imo go back to the old intent and if the handball has a significant impact

If it helps stop a goal or actively helps create a goal then it’s handball

 

[Hobbit]

By the handball laws of the game the goal should have been disallowed

The handball rules are a mess

Do you think that if the VAR officials see something obvious they would happily embarrass themselves by not giving it?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Do you think that if the VAR officials see something obvious they would happily embarrass themselves by not giving it?

We have seen it plenty of times when they have

 

[AmandaJR]

Flicked it up off his willy into his hand and goal. That's class

 

[Billysboots]

Flicked it up off his willy into his hand and goal. That's class

Well I, for one, am jealous of any footballer who can do that.

 

[Billysboots]

What on earth was Gusto thinking there?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Didn’t realise that here was football on and just seen the score

 

[Billysboots]

Didn’t realise that here was football on and just seen the score

For those of us who marvel at just how bad Chelsea are, given the money spent and alleged talent in their squad, it’s been a cracking watch so far.

If they had a fraction of the team ethic and spirit Forest are showing, Chelsea would be top four.

But they have neither. And are wonderfully woeful.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

For those of us who marvel at just how bad Chelsea are, given the money spent and alleged talent in their squad, it’s been a cracking watch so far.

If they had a fraction of the team ethic and spirit Forest are showing, Chelsea would be top four.

But they have neither. And are wonderfully woeful.

Spent over £2bn and still huge holes between the nets , the whole back line and through the middle up front

Where has all that money gone

 

[Billysboots]

 

[Billysboots]

Spent over £2bn and still huge holes between the nets , the whole back line and through the middle up front

Where has all that money gone

God knows. They are weak in several key positions, but to be without a top keeper is unforgivable. Didn’t they have something like eight keepers on the books not that long ago? And not a reliable one amongst them.

At least when United’s keepers were crap we only had two.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Hope the young lad is ok ,

Seems a harsh penalty

 

[AmandaJR]

Are these guys really professionals. Stand around for 10 minutes. No keeping warm/mobile. Then step up and take a penalty - no suprise it was soft as. He deserved to miss and ping a hammy too!

 

[Red devil]

Spent over £2bn and still huge holes between the nets , the whole back line and through the middle up front

Where has all that money gone

You on about Liverpool?