clubchamp98
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He shouldn’t be here this season.
clubchamp98
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You have to ask why he’s constantly picked and mostly plays 90 mins.
But he scored at least
Arthur Wedge
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There is not many after the season he had last season made any claim about him not being given a new contract
Hindsight makes things easy
clubchamp98
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I said it last year.
You must remember we had a discussion about Salah a few times.
He was just the same but the difference was he scored goals but was crap mostly for 89 mins.
So no hindsight from me
Arthur Wedge
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Let’s be honest you have made your feelings clear about Salah for years despite the goals and assists
He is there to score goals and set up goals and you have spent years critising him for it
34 goals and 23 assists in 52 games - it’s a season out of this world
He was a massive reason why we won the title
The name of the game is scoring goals and over the last decade there aren’t many better in the league or Europe
We have a new member in our roll up who is a Liverpool season ticket holder, although he readily accepts he doesn’t get to more than half a dozen games a season because of other commitments.
He hates Salah with a passion. Notwithstanding his goals return in past seasons he says he is lazy, won’t defend, is selfish, and vastly overrated.
When asked if he considers Salah to be world class his answer is short, to the point, and would see me issuing myself a warning if I was to repeat it here.
Swango1980
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I think the Wolves player who passed to him felt sorry for him
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Who ever gave him that contract should be sacked.
All players come to an end and Salahs was last year.
He will be one of the reasons we don’t get in the CL this year.
Your only as good as your last game ,
clubchamp98
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He’s correct.
And most match going fans I know think the same.
Swango1980
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I think there were a few raised eyebrows when Liverpool offered him £400k a week. I thought it was a silly decision, questioned it at time. I personally felt, at his age and the fact Liverpool could have still got a great fee for him, it was the perfect time to cash in. And as clubchamp98 said, he was also critical of him from what I remember on this forum.
Arthur Wedge
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When a player has the season they are having and tearing up the league as he was then they will offer him a new contract ,
The knives were already out for the club because a contract hadn’t been sorted
He had 6 months left so either leaving on a free or 2 years and if it doesn’t work out sell this summer
Swango1980
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Allowing the contracts of valuable assets to run until they are almost out of contract is a mistake. But making another mistake is not the solution to the first mistake.
I wonder what Salah's worth will be in the summer, even to Saudi Arabia?
I suspect it will have plummeted. So it’s poor business all round because, whilst not generating the huge pile of cash he could have done had they sold him, neither has he done what Liverpool have paid him a king’s ransom to do.
All hindsight, of course, but it seems a lot could see this coming.
anotherdouble
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Arthur Wedge
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The could have sold him in summer 2024 I think or 23 to Saudi for £100mil but decided to keep him and we won the league with him
So whilst business wise we may not get as much in the summer for him , him staying helped us win trophies which is the main aim
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Swango1980
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But you offered him the new contract last season, not 2 years ago. In fact, had you not already won the league by the time he signed his contract extension?
Pin-seeker
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Wasn’t Salah poor in the 2nd half of last season?
Orikoru
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Sort of - he was good until about March, so most of the season. Then hit his usual Ramadan drop-off, but never really recovered afterwards and didn't score many in the rest of that season - and this season has carried on the same way.
Swango1980
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In my view, Liverpool's mistake with Salah isn't even just about Salah himself. It is also about how they wanted the team to look.
I don't think you can just fit as many mega goalscoring players into one side, and expect each player to score a similar number of goals as they would if they were the main goalscorer in another side. They dilute each other. Stick Messi, Ronaldo and Salah, in their prime, in same team, they'd either have to work harder to assist each other, or 2 of them would need to be unselfish, and look to bring out best goalscoring in the other player. Firminho, Mane and Salah worked well because you had 2 grafters, same as Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez.
Liverpool must have had a transfer strategy long before end of season, and they brought in Isak and Etitike. Even with just Isak, I was puzzled as to how him and Salah could work well together. Both thrive on being big goalscorers. Was Salah really going to create loads of chances for Isak when he has a slim chance to shoot himself? And was Isak willing to be a bit more of a Firminho type player, and help create lots of chances for Salah? Or was Isak going to try and score at any slight opportunity?
Even when both were playing, they just looked a bit lost. Isak trying to figure out what he needs to do to justify his fee, and does that step on the toes of Liverpool's star man for last several years. And is Salah thinking he needs to be a bit more of a pawn, since Liverpool have brought in big money attackers?
I don't think you can just fit as many mega goalscoring players into one side, and expect each player to score a similar number of goals as they would if they were the main goalscorer in another side. They dilute each other. Stick Messi, Ronaldo and Salah, in their prime, in same team, they'd either have to work harder to assist each other, or 2 of them would need to be unselfish, and look to bring out best goalscoring in the other player. Firminho, Mane and Salah worked well because you had 2 grafters, same as Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez.
Liverpool must have had a transfer strategy long before end of season, and they brought in Isak and Etitike. Even with just Isak, I was puzzled as to how him and Salah could work well together. Both thrive on being big goalscorers. Was Salah really going to create loads of chances for Isak when he has a slim chance to shoot himself? And was Isak willing to be a bit more of a Firminho type player, and help create lots of chances for Salah? Or was Isak going to try and score at any slight opportunity?
Even when both were playing, they just looked a bit lost. Isak trying to figure out what he needs to do to justify his fee, and does that step on the toes of Liverpool's star man for last several years. And is Salah thinking he needs to be a bit more of a pawn, since Liverpool have brought in big money attackers?
Orikoru
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I'd agree. The transfers they brought in looked transitional and geared towards moving away from Salah being the main man - but Salah is still there like a square peg in a round hole. I wouldn't be surprised if Wirtz goes up a level next year when Salah is gone and there's a bit of space for someone else to shine.
