clubchamp98
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Nomad!
Arthur Wedge
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Just a great goal
Tashyboy
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Just watching the highlights of the Villa v Newcastle game.
It highlights my point re officials and VAR. VAR was brought in because of inept officials.
1, the Villa goal was offside.
2, the keeper sending off was correct.
3, Digne should have been sent off.
4, Digne handled in the box. Should of been a penalty.
Am sure there was more. But that was the worst officiating I have seen for an age. And yet now these officials will be on the pitch next week and they will be let loose in a VAR booth. Shocking.
It highlights my point re officials and VAR. VAR was brought in because of inept officials.
1, the Villa goal was offside.
2, the keeper sending off was correct.
3, Digne should have been sent off.
4, Digne handled in the box. Should of been a penalty.
Am sure there was more. But that was the worst officiating I have seen for an age. And yet now these officials will be on the pitch next week and they will be let loose in a VAR booth. Shocking.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Brighton played some nice footy but never really looked like scoring.
Thought they would put the strongest side out.
Some good performances from Liverpool players ,thought Kirkez deserved MOM for me.
But Mcoist just gives it to a goal scorer.
Should have give it to the guy in the seagull mask.
Thought they would put the strongest side out.
Some good performances from Liverpool players ,thought Kirkez deserved MOM for me.
But Mcoist just gives it to a goal scorer.
Should have give it to the guy in the seagull mask.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Do you think there are better, more qualified officials waiting to be called in to replace them?
Possibly proves that VAR or not, fans will not accept mistakes.
The non-penalty for handball was a bad one, but pre VAR there were many howlers made from time to time.
P.S. It wasn't called in for inept officials. It was called in to try and resolve human error, which is unavoidable. Looks like Liverpool had a perfectly good 4th goal disallowed as well, never offside.
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
The worst refereeing performance I’ve seen in a long time.
I can understand not using VAR when a lower league team is involved , but surely there is no good reason for not having it when two Prem teams are playing?
I can understand not using VAR when a lower league team is involved , but surely there is no good reason for not having it when two Prem teams are playing?
AmandaJR
Money List Winner
Whilst on the topic. Marmoush scores a screamer. Flagged offside. Clearly played on by a defender nearest to the lino. Surely that's an easy one for him to see.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Yesterday highlighted how poor officials are
The Villa game was the worst
But other games had multiple decisions that in the end thankfully didn’t have too much affect on the game
The Villa game was the worst
But other games had multiple decisions that in the end thankfully didn’t have too much affect on the game
It's about keeping things consistent. Not sure I entirely agree with that, if you can use it then do so, but I can see the logic
What it shows, sadly, is that for all the controversy VAR attracts, top level football can no longer operate without it.
I hate VAR with a passion. It ruins the game as a spectacle, especially for the match going fan. It’s a mechanism via which inept officials in the VAR booth cover up for the mistakes of equally inept officials on the ground, and its use has allowed those on the ground to get progressively worse, as we saw last night.
But what last night also demonstrated in glorious clarity is that we are now well and truly stuck with it.
@Billysboots very much agree. The key now is to improve its implementation. The concept is good, we need it. It just doesn't work as well as it should. That's where the concentration should be.
Spot on. Its implementation is the issue. Especially the five minute offside checks. There has to be a time limit - if the offside isn’t obvious then the advantage stays with the attacker.
AmandaJR
Money List Winner
Imagine a simpler world. No VAR. More importantly no slow motion replays. Only what the officials see. Hell no replays at all.
Bliss...
Bliss...
irip
Head Pro
For me personally i think VAR should only be used for factual decisions.
The biggest problem is the time it often takes to reach a decision and hopefully a way is found to speed that up
The biggest problem is the time it often takes to reach a decision and hopefully a way is found to speed that up
I'd have a limit for every decision. Pick a time, 60 seconds, 90 seconds, no more. If you can't see something that makes you change your mind in that time, you stick with the onfield decision.
The slowness of the decision making is the biggest gripe for me.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
That’s what it should be - factual offsides
And clear and obvious
It’s now become a tool to look at every single incident which then they spend ages slowing down everything
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
There was an offside in the Barca game the other night which took 8 minutes to check!!
PaulMdj
Well-known member
Bin VAR and give a manager 2 appeals per half, they get 30 seconds after an incident to appeal.
Appeal any decision they like, but just 2.
Appeal any decision they like, but just 2.
Swango1980
Well-known member
We are able to imagine that world this weekend. And the officials have been slated as a result of it.
As bad as at least one, if not 2 of those mistakes were in the Newcastle game, they are the sort of mistakes that happened pre VAR, due to human error. If Newcastle had lost, the criticism would have been tenfold.
I struggle to buy the fact officials are inept. I'm sure there is competition for places at the elite level, and I'm guessing they spend loads (comparative to most other nations) on training and assessment. Potentially, because VAR has been a crutch for so long at elite level, they have lost a bit of ability in having to make the big decisions in the heat of the moment.
Weird moment last night when Gapko scored, linesman didn't flag for offside, then a very long time after goal went in, he flagged. I'm not sure what he was waiting for. Also, think is was West Ham game where ref was going to give a yellow, went over to see injured player, then changed his mind and gave red. If VAR was there, I reckon he gives yellow and lets VAR review. And I'm not sure VAR would have overturned that one.
Arthur Wedge
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He is looking straight at Digne who not once left the box
That’s nothing but ineptitude
