Bit like cricket? You get an appeal, you keep it if successful?
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irip
Head Pro
That’s the first time I have seen that.
I can’t believe they have come to the conclusion that he was outside the area, it’s not close and at no point has ever left the area.
Forget VAR or not that is absolutely horrific officiating.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
You shouldn’t need appeals to look at factual decisions like offside
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
The Digne tackle was right in front of them as well
There is no excuse for the penalty incident
It’s pure incompetence
Swango1980
Well-known member
No VAR this weekend, and all we are talking about is VAR and bad officials 
Music to the ears of VAR fans, as they can simply say "I told you so"
Music to the ears of VAR fans, as they can simply say "I told you so"
Slime
Tour Winner
Again, I find myself chuckling.
So many on here constantly moan about VAR and, when it's not used, moan about the officiating.
How difficult do you think reffing is?
I tried it once, and only once, and that was a kids' match ....................... I found it incredibly difficult.
I'm sure if some of you gave it a try you'd have a bit more empathy.
That non-penalty decision was obviously very poor, but humans make very bad mistakes.
Cole Palmer missed an absolute sitter the other day, but we didn't have page after page of criticism.
I'm happy to give them a bit of slack as I'm eternally grateful that there are people prepared to step into the firing line and actually do the job.
I know I wouldn't ....................................... and I suspect you guys wouldn't.
It's just not worth all the crap they have to put up with.
I wish Shearer, Rooney and Dublin were forced to give it a try and have their efforts picked apart by 'experts' who have never done it before!
So many on here constantly moan about VAR and, when it's not used, moan about the officiating.
How difficult do you think reffing is?
I tried it once, and only once, and that was a kids' match ....................... I found it incredibly difficult.
I'm sure if some of you gave it a try you'd have a bit more empathy.
That non-penalty decision was obviously very poor, but humans make very bad mistakes.
Cole Palmer missed an absolute sitter the other day, but we didn't have page after page of criticism.
I'm happy to give them a bit of slack as I'm eternally grateful that there are people prepared to step into the firing line and actually do the job.
I know I wouldn't ....................................... and I suspect you guys wouldn't.
It's just not worth all the crap they have to put up with.
I wish Shearer, Rooney and Dublin were forced to give it a try and have their efforts picked apart by 'experts' who have never done it before!
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Var isn’t the issue
The implementation of VAR is the problem
Refs in the professional game get rewarded very well
When players etc make mistakes they suffer the consequences of it - dropped , sold etc
Refs when they make mistakes appear to be made of Teflon -very little consequence and protected
Kavanagh who was in the middle for rhe Newcastle game will be back next week for a Prem game
If he can’t ref to the high standard required then he needs to find a different career - there is no excuse for that performance yesterday
Agreed
nickjdavis
Head Pro
20 seconds is the most it should take....if you cant decide in 20 seconds then its not clear/obvious. If you need multiple camera angles/replays then its not clear/obvious.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
This is what they did in the U-17 (19?) World Cup last summer....worked really well. Successful appeal....they kept their "review".
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Fourth official was shown an iPad of Liverpools disallowed offside goal yesterday.
His face was a picture!
His face was a picture!
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
“Fifa states that the system "is used only in the event of a possible clear and obvious error, or serious missed incident in relation to the following scenarios, such as goal/no goal, penalty/no penalty or direct red cards (not second cautions)".
It’s those words again - Clear and Obvious
VAR coach challenges to be trialed in new competitions
The International Football Association Board (IFAB) on Monday approved expanded trials of Football Video Support (FVS), an alternative VAR system which gives coaches the chance to challenge decisions.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Will Cole Palmer be dropped for missing a sitter? Will he be fined?
nickjdavis
Head Pro
This I believe is a big contributory factor...the officials on the park have forgotten how to stand on their own two feet.
The non-penalty decision WAS inept. There is no other word for it. The ref marked the position for the free kick virtually from where Trippier played the cross from. The ref let himself down and he was let down in turn by his linesman...its difficult to understand how between them they got it so wrong. In my opinion, VAR wasnt brought in to fix these sort of issues, it was never meant as a band-aid for incompetence.
The rest of the decisions....well...
It's a struggle to see how, in a dead ball situation the linesman couldnt see that 2 or more Villa players, including the scorer, were offside......but that IS the sort of mistake that VAR was introduced for.
The Digne "red card tackle"....you've seen them given both yellow and red. I dont think VAR overturns a decision either way myself as the boys at Stockley Park dont like undermining the man in the middle.
The Bizot red card....with VAR I reckon they'd have overturned the red, claiming there were covering defenders - though how a 3 on 1 (2 if you are generous) attack, with no keeper between the sticks wouldn't result in a goalscoring opportunity I dont know.
The Newcastle equaliser....VAR would have denied the goal as Burn appeared to be marginally offside when the balls was initially played in and half challenged the keeper forcing his dodgy punch out.
VAR would have tried to get involved in Newcastle's 2nd, as Gordon was stood offside close to the penalty spot...arguable as to whether he was in the eye-line of the keeper but VAR would have tried nonetheless.
I reckon VAR would have given a penalty for Newcastle when Hall was checked in the box.
Oh.....and with all the above going on....we'd have ended up with 9/10/11 minutes of time added on instead of the 4 we did get.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
We've had VAR in the PL for 6 seasons now...they threw the "clear and obvious" baby out with the bathwater on day 1, and started doing forensic analysis of situations and re-refereeing the game right from the start....and its gone downhill from there leading to the 4/5/6 minute reviews that are now commonplace.“Fifa states that the system "is used only in the event of a possible clear and obvious error, or serious missed incident in relation to the following scenarios, such as goal/no goal, penalty/no penalty or direct red cards (not second cautions)".
It’s those words again - Clear and Obvious
VAR coach challenges to be trialed in new competitions
The International Football Association Board (IFAB) on Monday approved expanded trials of Football Video Support (FVS), an alternative VAR system which gives coaches the chance to challenge decisions.www.espn.co.uk
Tashyboy
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The thing is BB, in the previous round we were applauding the football and officials without the use of VAR. Some of those decisions yesterday were atrocious at the very least.
