The Footie Thread

[irip]

Irrelevant to who he played with

And talking more than just someone’s football ability

I reckon if he had played for Liverpool you would rate him as the best player of all time.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I reckon if he had played for Liverpool you would rate him as the best player of all time.

Again missing the point, not just about someone as a footballer

Messi for me is the better player
Ronaldo the better goalscorer

 

[PaulMdj]

I reckon if he had played for Liverpool you would rate him as the best player of all time.

We get this all the time with Club loyalty though, last week it was Bruno Fernandes and some Utd fans saying his whinging is passion etc, same people who slag off Richarlison for whinging.

Fact is, none of know these Footballers and sadly go along with the media when it suits our narrative, but then blame the media when it doesn’t.

Maybe we should all just judge them on being Footballers and without doubt Ronaldo is up there with the best ever.

 

[irip]

Again missing the point, not just about someone as a footballer

Messi for me is the better player
Ronaldo the better goalscorer

Didn’t miss the point the 1st time or this time thank you.

Your opinion of him is based on the fact he played for Manchester United is the point I’m making.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Didn’t miss the point the 1st time or this time thank you.

Your opinion of him is based on the fact he played for Manchester United is the point I’m making.

My opinion is based on nothing to do with Man Utd

 

[Swango1980]

My opinion is based on nothing to do with Man Utd

Why is your opinion on how good a footballer someone is based on their personality? And would you be so quick to highlight why you don't rate Suarez so highly as a footballer based on his character traits?

I'd imagine a very large number of your opinions on this thread have almost everything to do with Man Utd

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Blimey

 

[Neilds]

There is quite a bit of talk about James Milner equalling the PL appearance record this weekend, equalling Gary Speed with 653 appearances. Given that Brighton seem to be subbing him on for a couple of minutes at a time, does this make a bit of a mockery of the record? Should we be looking at PL starts and not just appearances? If we did, Milner would be way down the list as he has only been a starter in 2/3 of the matches he has played in.

 

[nickjdavis]

There is quite a bit of talk about James Milner equalling the PL appearance record this weekend, equalling Gary Speed with 653 appearances. Given that Brighton seem to be subbing him on for a couple of minutes at a time, does this make a bit of a mockery of the record? Should we be looking at PL starts and not just appearances? If we did, Milner would be way down the list as he has only been a starter in 2/3 of the matches he has played in.

i think you meant Gareth Barry.

 

[Neilds]

i think you meant Gareth Barry.

Oops!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

There is quite a bit of talk about James Milner equalling the PL appearance record this weekend, equalling Gary Speed with 653 appearances. Given that Brighton seem to be subbing him on for a couple of minutes at a time, does this make a bit of a mockery of the record? Should we be looking at PL starts and not just appearances? If we did, Milner would be way down the list as he has only been a starter in 2/3 of the matches he has played in.

Don’t think it makes a mockery of it

a player is still coming onto the pitch to make an appearance

Can only applaud someone to keep playing at the top level at that age

 

[irip]

There is quite a bit of talk about James Milner equalling the PL appearance record this weekend, equalling Gary Speed with 653 appearances. Given that Brighton seem to be subbing him on for a couple of minutes at a time, does this make a bit of a mockery of the record? Should we be looking at PL starts and not just appearances? If we did, Milner would be way down the list as he has only been a starter in 2/3 of the matches he has played in.

Maybe it should be done in minutes actually played.(which might still be him for all I know).
He has been a very good player and won a lot of things but he doesn’t really contribute much on the pitch anymore.
It’s a bit like the 2nd keeper who gets a winner medal when his team wins the league when he has sat on the bench all year.

 

[Swango1980]

There is quite a bit of talk about James Milner equalling the PL appearance record this weekend, equalling Gary Speed with 653 appearances. Given that Brighton seem to be subbing him on for a couple of minutes at a time, does this make a bit of a mockery of the record? Should we be looking at PL starts and not just appearances? If we did, Milner would be way down the list as he has only been a starter in 2/3 of the matches he has played in.

Or minutes played.

 

[Swango1980]

Don’t think it makes a mockery of it

a player is still coming onto the pitch to make an appearance

Can only applaud someone to keep playing at the top level at that age

Unless it is Ronaldo when he gets picked for Portugal

 

[AmandaJR]

Unless it is Ronaldo when he gets picked for Portugal

Bravo

 

[anotherdouble]

There is quite a bit of talk about James Milner equalling the PL appearance record this weekend, equalling Gary Speed with 653 appearances. Given that Brighton seem to be subbing him on for a couple of minutes at a time, does this make a bit of a mockery of the record? Should we be looking at PL starts and not just appearances? If we did, Milner would be way down the list as he has only been a starter in 2/3 of the matches he has played in.

Exactly the same with international caps. A player could be the most capped in history and yet they may only get a minute at the end in each game

 

[PaulMdj]

There is quite a bit of talk about James Milner equalling the PL appearance record this weekend, equalling Gary Speed with 653 appearances. Given that Brighton seem to be subbing him on for a couple of minutes at a time, does this make a bit of a mockery of the record? Should we be looking at PL starts and not just appearances? If we did, Milner would be way down the list as he has only been a starter in 2/3 of the matches he has played in.

Clue is in the title isn’t it?
Premier League Appearances.

Best not to over think it, whether they played the whole match or just a part of it, they made an “appearance”

The fact he’s still training and making the squad should be applauded on its own imo.

 

[SteveW86]

Don’t think it makes a mockery of it

a player is still coming onto the pitch to make an appearance

Can only applaud someone to keep playing at the top level at that age

Obviously defending Milner cause he played for Liverpool

Only pulling your leg

 

[Swango1980]

Maybe it should be done in minutes actually played.(which might still be him for all I know).
He has been a very good player and won a lot of things but he doesn’t really contribute much on the pitch anymore.
It’s a bit like the 2nd keeper who gets a winner medal when his team wins the league when he has sat on the bench all year.

Just had a quick look at his last few PL seasons:


Brighton
25/26: 14 appearances, average 22 mins per match
24/25: 4 appearances, 43 mins per match
23/24: 15 appearances, 52 mins per match

Liverpool
22/23: 31 appearances, 29 mins per match
21/22: 24 appearances, 35 mins per match
20/21: 26 appearances, 41 minutes per match
19/20: 22 appearances, 42 minutes per match
18/19: 31 appearances, 58 minutes per match
17/18: 32 appearances, 55 minutes per match
16/17: 36 appearances, 88 mins per match

It seems like he was very well used in 16/17. That dropped a lot for the next 2 seasons, amd significantly since 2019/2020. He has been well rested, I reckon he'll be able to keep making appearances until he is 50

 

[irip]

Just had a quick look at his last few PL seasons:


Brighton
25/26: 14 appearances, average 22 mins per match
24/25: 4 appearances, 43 mins per match
23/24: 15 appearances, 52 mins per match

Liverpool
22/23: 31 appearances, 29 mins per match
21/22: 24 appearances, 35 mins per match
20/21: 26 appearances, 41 minutes per match
19/20: 22 appearances, 42 minutes per match
18/19: 31 appearances, 58 minutes per match
17/18: 32 appearances, 55 minutes per match
16/17: 36 appearances, 88 mins per match

It seems like he was very well used in 16/17. That dropped a lot for the next 2 seasons, amd significantly since 2019/2020. He has been well rested, I reckon he'll be able to keep making appearances until he is 50

He has always been used as a squad player that can play very well in a lot of different positions.
I don’t think he was ever first choice at City or Liverpool.
Comes across as a nice person though which is the most important thing when assessing a player