The Footie Thread

[nickjdavis]

Weren’t even that good , can’t really remember too many saves the UTD keeper had to make - closet they came was when the left back hit the bar

He does look very good though

Lewis Hall will be our next £80m+ sale. Wouldn't want to see him go but I reckon we could fleece Madrid for a few Peseta's in a couple of years time.

Think Joelinton's days are numbered....looking more and more like Boris Johnson the way he blusters into challenges....if someone in Saudi offers us £35m then I reckon we should take it.

 

[Tashyboy]

United won.

I was going to reply to possibly have a natter about it but am not going to bother.

 

[4LEX]

There was criticism on here that Heaven was on of the worst centre backs in the League. Was immense tonight

If you think that was immense it shows how far your standards have slipped. Martinez was much better according to most rating sites and I'd argue he wasn't even that good. First clean sheet in 11 games is a shocking stat too.

Enjoyed the game but it was chaotic match, Newcastle will be gutted to leave without 3 points on the second half display. Never seen an away side run the game and have nearly 80% possession at OT unless up against 10 men. Feel it's a result that papers over the cracks. Newcastle were an embarrassment up top, Howe will be under massive pressure if he keeps gifting cheap points on the road.

 

[Red devil]

If you think that was immense it shows how far your standards have slipped. Martinez was much better according to most rating sites and I'd argue he wasn't even that good. First clean sheet in 11 games is a shocking stat too.

Enjoyed the game but it was chaotic match, Newcastle will be gutted to leave without 3 points on the second half display. Never seen an away side run the game and have nearly 80% possession at OT unless up against 10 men. Feel it's a result that papers over the cracks. Newcastle were an embarrassment up top, Howe will be under massive pressure if he keeps gifting cheap points on the road.

I don't bother with rating sites just what I saw and Keane and Carragher thought likewise. Of course Utd need more clean sheets but it's a start.

 

[4LEX]

I don't bother with rating sites just what I saw and Keane and Carragher thought likewise. Of course Utd need more clean sheets but it's a start.

Immense is Rio and Brown v Barca in 2008, not some kid getting by in a feeble 1-0 win v Newcastle. I know it sounds harsh but your club is bigger than that and the standards should be higher.

 

[Billysboots]

I don't bother with rating sites just what I saw and Keane and Carragher thought likewise. Of course Utd need more clean sheets but it's a start.

Agreed. He looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights a few weeks ago, but nothing got by him this evening.

I’m just at a bit of a loss as to why there was such a huge change at half time. Mount was a huge miss, as he was constantly dropping deep during that first half into pockets of space and, together with Cunha, pulling the strings. Some of their connections first half were excellent again.

Second half we looked like a different side. Dorgu switched sides and looked far less effective, and some of Amorim’s substitutions were questionable to say the least.

But it’s three points, and another solid display from Lammens. For a young keeper he’s settling in well, and commanding his area in a way Onana could only dream of.

Onwards and hopefully not downwards.

 

[Red devil]

Immense is Rio and Brown v Barca in 2008, not some kid getting by in a feeble 1-0 win v Newcastle. I know it sounds harsh but your club is bigger than that and the standards should be higher.

"That kid" is in there because of injuries to senior players. He stepped up to the plate and did his job.

 

[4LEX]

"That kid" is in there because of injuries to senior players. He stepped up to the plate and did his job.

Didn't Amorim leave a £55m centre back in Yoro on the bench for him tonight though?

Anyway, I like Utd and really hope Heaven steps up long term and you get back to where you belong

 

[nickjdavis]

Next 4 league games are crucial for Newcastle's season, anything less than 10 points from Burnley (a), Palace (h), Leeds (h) and Wolves (a) and I believe the clamouring for the managers head will increase to a level where it will begin to attract nonsensical questions from the press and be a distracting influence hanging over the rest of the season.

Anything less from those fixtures and we can kiss the season goodbye and drift into a lower mid table finish....should we somehow manage 4 wins, we will at least restore ourselves to a position where we could make a challenge for the minor European comps....in any event CL is certainly out of the question.

 

[Beezerk]

Absolutely. Newcastle were terrible in the final third.

Been saying it for months to my friends, they're absolutely toothless up front. Some agree, some just assume I'm trying to take the pee

 

[Swango1980]

Second half was tough to watch for a Utd fan, but why expect much different?

Nobody thinks Utd are one of the best sides, with all their best players fit.

We then lose 3 players to AFCON, two of which are amongst our most important attacking players. Missing 2 of our most experienced players at centre back. Our most influential, ever present player is injured and his understudy Mainoo also unavailable. Mount looks good, and has to come off at half time. The team that finished that game looked like a League Cup side.

One of the biggest differences could simply be missing Bruno. The players have become so accustomed to his influence and direction, let alone his quality. It can't be easy to suddenly find that direction amongst themselves in the first game without him. I can see why Amorim felt it might be better to stick Zirkzee up front, to help the ball stick. Sadly, he had less success than Sesko at that.

Anyway, despite struggling to retain possession, we still defended the lead with some solid defending. Nice to see Dorgu score, and show some good attacking moments in 1st half.

 

[irip]

I thought that was a great result for Man Utd yesterday.

They didn’t play well obviously but found a way of getting the 3 points.
That was a game they would have lost this time last season.

It showed to me that Amorin has at the least got the players working hard for him and the club.

The attitude and work rate from the United players just shows how right he was in getting rid of who he did.
I wonder what the result would have been with the likes of Rashford or Garnacho in the team?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Not seen any of the game, and just seen the result on the BBC site. But Amorim is coming in for a bit of flack re his substitutions. Is it justified.

I think it is a very easy argument to state that utd got worse after each substitution. They somehow won but that was far more about Newcastle in the last third than Utd playing well. It was a game to encourage the fans of other clubs that Amorim should stay

 

[PaulMdj]

Last night’s match:
If I was a Utd fan I’d laughing my head off getting 3 points, absolute bonus, but I don’t believe it was down to a good performance by many of the team, the issue was N’Castle being rubbish.

The substitutions by Amorin were questioned, but I was more surprised by Howe’s changes, taking Woltemade who gave an ariel threat alongside holding the ball up and Tonali, who with Bruno G, was finding gaps and space all over the Utd half.

Gordon should of been took off, he was back to being a headless chicken with no final ball.

If the Utd defenders/midfield had been blocking shots and last ditch efforts then fair enough, but they weren’t, they simply had to clear easy balls in to the box.

Pity Mount went off and hopefully it was a precaution as he looked decent and almost made it look like Fernandes wasn’t a big miss.

Just a great result for Utd, don’t over analyse it, laugh and move on, the Mags? The locals will be getting restless.

 

[Slime]

Last night’s match:
If I was a Utd fan I’d laughing my head off getting 3 points, absolute bonus, but I don’t believe it was down to a good performance by many of the team, the issue was N’Castle being rubbish.

I am laughing my head off.
United actually win a game through hard work and a collective digging in, yet they are still criticised by all and sundry claiming United were crap but Newcastle were crappier.
It just illustrates the dislike of United from pretty much all non-United fans.
Just suck it up and give United a bit of credit, you know you want to.

 

[Tashyboy]

I am laughing my head off.
United actually win a game through hard work and a collective digging in, yet they are still criticised by all and sundry claiming United were crap but Newcastle were crappier.
It just illustrates the dislike of United from pretty much all non-United fans.
Just suck it up and give United a bit of credit, you know you want to.

You know last week and the week before I was criticised for not getting “ the point” of City being boring yet winning titles and breaking all sorts of records.
Last night I asked for an opinion on Amorim’s Substiutions, I was told “ we won”. That was the level of response when asking for views. It was nothing to do with the “ It just illustrates the dislike of Utd from pretty much all non United fans”.
PaulMdj freely admits that Newcastle were poor and yet Utd who won a game through hard work and collective digging in. As Roy Keane says.” That’s your job”.

 

[PaulMdj]

I am laughing my head off.
United actually win a game through hard work and a collective digging in, yet they are still criticised by all and sundry claiming United were crap but Newcastle were crappier.
It just illustrates the dislike of United from pretty much all non-United fans.
Just suck it up and give United a bit of credit, you know you want to.

You’re living in cloud cuckoo land if you think that was “hard work and collective digging in”

Nice to see you only highlighting any criticism, but chose to ignore the positives I mentioned.

It’s more down to the Utd fans than the Club itself why you’re disliked.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

You know last week and the week before I was criticised for not getting “ the point” of City being boring yet winning titles and breaking all sorts of records.
Last night I asked for an opinion on Amorim’s Substiutions, I was told “ we won”. That was the level of response when asking for views. It was nothing to do with the “ It just illustrates the dislike of Utd from pretty much all non United fans”.
PaulMdj freely admits that Newcastle were poor and yet Utd who won a game through hard work and collective digging in. As Roy Keane says.” That’s your job”.

Well done on making it about Man City

You posted straight after they won looking to be critical and what sort of response did you expect

 

[Arthur Wedge]

You’re living in cloud cuckoo land if you think that was “hard work and collective digging in”

Nice to see you only highlighting any criticism, but chose to ignore the positives I mentioned.

It’s more down to the Utd fans than the Club itself why you’re disliked.

It was a poor game , Newcastle didn’t do enough to get anything from the game and Man Utd did enough in the first half

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

You know last week and the week before I was criticised for not getting “ the point” of City being boring yet winning titles and breaking all sorts of records.
Last night I asked for an opinion on Amorim’s Substiutions, I was told “ we won”. That was the level of response when asking for views. It was nothing to do with the “ It just illustrates the dislike of Utd from pretty much all non United fans”.
PaulMdj freely admits that Newcastle were poor and yet Utd who won a game through hard work and collective digging in. As Roy Keane says.” That’s your job”.

Your comment was ill timed that’s why it was effectively ignored and now shoe horning City in to make it more relevant does the complete opposite and it more pointless mate.

People can question Amorims subs but what was he meant to do. He has some of his best players away at AFCON, Mount was precautionary in hope he isn’t injured and his star player is out for a month. Any subs he made would weaken the starting line up but he has to make them to give players rest.

Newcastle subs were far worse and made less sense nobody questioned Howe! Utd got the result they needed and move forward, it’s not pretty but Amorim is slowly pulling them up the table.

Btw City are still boring