The Footie Thread

[Lucifer MorningStar]

That's spot on. He's had a great career and won pretty much everything. Was exceptional for City and England for a few years too. He was always a pace merchant and when that went he's struggled badly.

I think it’s going to be a similar issue for Saka as he gets older. Great young player but he’s starting to pick up injuries and as he ages and the pace goes he will either need to reinvent his game or he like Stirling will hit a wall and have career choices to make.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I think it’s going to be a similar issue for Saka as he gets older. Great young player but he’s starting to pick up injuries and as he ages and the pace goes he will either need to reinvent his game or he like Stirling will hit a wall and have career choices to make.

Too many times the young talented players get flogged early doors

Saka is the next example - Arteta plays him any time he is fit and he keeps breaking down - he will be broken within another 5 years

 

[4LEX]

I think it’s going to be a similar issue for Saka as he gets older. Great young player but he’s starting to pick up injuries and as he ages and the pace goes he will either need to reinvent his game or he like Stirling will hit a wall and have career choices to make.

Yeah Saka has picked up a fair few injuries over the last two seasons and always been rushed back. He's got a lot more to his game than Sterling but can see him tailing off.

That said, Saka is overrated for his repatation v data and trophies. He should be getting 20+ playing in such an attacking side.

 

[Tashyboy]

Saka is very much a young Stirling. The biggest difference between them is Pep. Pep was massive for Stirling. He was the one that coached Stirling into doing exactly what he wanted from him. Both Stirling and Sane were immense for City at one point. Sane moved on and Sterling continued to do it for City. There were times when his finishing was woeful. But due to Pep telling him exactly where he wanted him in the box he Continued to get chances.
If Saka was at City he would be an exceptional player.
In a team full of world class players, Stirling more than held his own. Wish him all the best were ever he ends up.

 

[Swango1980]

Apparently Jorrel Hato is Chelsea's 49th arrival in 4 years.

For comparison, Man Utd have had 49 arrivals since Ander Herrera in 2014. Liverpool since Nathaniel Clyne in 2015.

Not proof checked this, but is definitely seems like it could be true.

 

[Neilds]

Apparently Jorrel Hato is Chelsea's 49th arrival in 4 years.

For comparison, Man Utd have had 49 arrivals since Ander Herrera in 2014. Liverpool since Nathaniel Clyne in 2015.

Not proof checked this, but is definitely seems like it could be true.

Rotherham Utd have probably had about the same as Chelsea - 10 this season alone. Reasons are very different form Chelsea though. We have a lot of season long loans and very short contracts so the squad goes through big changes every season. I suspect this is similar to a lot of lower league clubs.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1952990064973426759

Man Utd winning the battle for Sesko

Think he is a good signing , imo it’s who Arsenal should have gone for

Newcastle will prob now be left with Jackson to go for

 

[Slime]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1952990064973426759

Man Utd winning the battle for Sesko

Think he is a good signing , imo it’s who Arsenal should have gone for

Newcastle will prob now be left with Jackson to go for

There is, surely, no better reason for buying Sesko than avoiding Jackson.
I'd sooner Utd employ Jamie Vardy!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

There is, surely, no better reason for buying Sesko than avoiding Jackson.
I'd sooner Utd employ Jamie Vardy!

Somehow Jackson seems to have managed to get himself double figure goals in each of the last two seasons

 

[Neilds]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2096dvl47no

Interesting article on the BBC website discussing long throw ins. It says how they are looked down upon and teams that use them are considered dirty hoofers with no skill - but teams who have elaborate free kick and corner routines are technical geniuses. What is the difference, both methods get the ball into the danger area and lead to goals.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2096dvl47no

Interesting article on the BBC website discussing long throw ins. It says how they are looked down upon and teams that use them are considered dirty hoofers with no skill - but teams who have elaborate free kick and corner routines are technical geniuses. What is the difference, both methods get the ball into the danger area and lead to goals.

Liverpool hired a throw in coach a few years back and was derided for it. A throw in can be as big a weapon as a corner or a free kick

 

[Neilds]

Liverpool hired a throw in coach a few years back and was derided for it. A throw in can be as big a weapon as a corner or a free kick

Liverpool didn't use the long throw in so not sure what the specialist coach brought to the table (or the pitch!)

 

[clubchamp98]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2096dvl47no

Interesting article on the BBC website discussing long throw ins. It says how they are looked down upon and teams that use them are considered dirty hoofers with no skill - but teams who have elaborate free kick and corner routines are technical geniuses. What is the difference, both methods get the ball into the danger area and lead to goals.

Long throw comes in with no pace so it’s difficult for the defenders to get any distance on it with their head.

Free kick or corner has more pace so a bit easier to deal with.

I like a long throw as long as they mix it up and it’s not everyone just plonked in the box.
But they can be very useful.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Somehow Jackson seems to have managed to get himself double figure goals in each of the last two seasons

I'm not a stats person on the whole but I did see a stat yesterday, I think, which showed Jackson's goal ratio to chances was one of the worst in the league. Considering the chances he had at Chelsea his goals tally should have been much higher.

He might be better this season, it takes a season for many to settle in England, but I saw nothing in his play last season that suggested he was a top striker. Not even a middle level striker

 

[Swango1980]

Liverpool hired a throw in coach a few years back and was derided for it. A throw in can be as big a weapon as a corner or a free kick

A throw in coach????

Unless they are some Olympian who can teach players to hurl the ball in like Rory Delap, I don't see what they would teach the players? How to throw it short to a players feet or chest? How not to make a foul throw?

Throwing the ball into the box can be a dangerous weapon. But you'd think a more general (set piece) coach could train players to move well in the box, as they do free kicks and corners. Not a specific throw in coach, that seems hilarious. Is it an Adam Sandler movie?

 

[Swango1980]

I'm not a stats person on the whole but I did see a stat yesterday, I think, which showed Jackson's goal ratio to chances was one of the worst in the league. Considering the chances he had at Chelsea his goals tally should have been much higher.

He might be better this season, it takes a season for many to settle in England, but I saw nothing in his play last season that suggested he was a top striker. Not even a middle level striker

Personally, I don't think Jackson is as bad as people make out. He scores goals, he misses lots of chances. But, at least he is getting into those good positions.

All that said, I'd cry if Man Utd signed him. If they continue to present him with 1 chance every 3 matches, his goal conversion ratio terrifies me.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Personally, I don't think Jackson is as bad as people make out. He scores goals, he misses lots of chances. But, at least he is getting into those good positions.

All that said, I'd cry if Man Utd signed him. If they continue to present him with 1 chance every 3 matches, his goal conversion ratio terrifies me.

Jeez, Everton need goals but if they signed Jackson I'd just sigh in a slightly depressed manner. He may be better in a different league.

I'd actually take your lad Hojlund. On loan for the season with an option to buy at the end of the season. Actually give him a supply line and some support, offer some competition with Beto. We would then see if we can find the player you originally signed.

 

[Neilds]

A throw in coach????

Unless they are some Olympian who can teach players to hurl the ball in like Rory Delap, I don't see what they would teach the players? How to throw it short to a players feet or chest? How not to make a foul throw?

Throwing the ball into the box can be a dangerous weapon. But you'd think a more general (set piece) coach could train players to move well in the box, as they do free kicks and corners. Not a specific throw in coach, that seems hilarious. Is it an Adam Sandler movie?

How to steal an extra few yards?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Liverpool didn't use the long throw in so not sure what the specialist coach brought to the table (or the pitch!)

Meet Liverpool's secret weapon: throw-in coach Thomas Grønnemark

Throw-ins are often viewed as inconsequential but specialist coach Thomas Grønnemark is out to change that. His results speak for themselves.

www.espn.co.uk

It’s not just about a long throw in into the box

 

[Swango1980]

How to steal an extra few yards?

Gary Neville was the master at that. He'd have a throw in at his own corner flag, and when he eventually took the throw he was in a position to throw it into the opponent's box