The Footie Thread

[Slime]

Think of the squirrel Stu, think of the squirrel!!!

They're on holiday this week ................................ and possibly for the rest of the season!
However, I think one or two of them would like to return for the Norwich game and then resume they're hollibobs.
I'll let you know!

 

[Billysboots]

Spoken like a true glory hunter. I admire your honesty.

Codswallop.

If you can read the written word, you will have noticed I said this has nothing to do with results and failing to be competitive, and everything to do with the way United do their business, on and off the pitch.

I watch football to be entertained, and to see the game played by players who actually appear to be enjoying what they do. Which is why I much preferred the days of Gordon Hill, Steve Coppell, Jimmy Greenhoff, Stuart Pearson and their ilk, when all we had to celebrate was the occasional cup run, over the bilge served up during the last few years.

Glory hunter? A cheap shot, and so far from the truth it’s unbelievable.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Steven Gerrard's Aston Villa not doing too well

Villa are were you expect Villa to be - mid table , it’s always going to be a learning curve for him

 

[Lord Tyrion]

No phone signal most of the day, nice result. Wish we could do it away.

It's something I can't get my head around, across football not just us. If we can't start doing it away then we go down. Even just picking up draws away might be enough but we can't seem to manage that so far. The good news is that we have another 10 days before our next game so that is more time to work on what is needed. 10 happy days for a change ?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Codswallop.

If you can read the written word, you will have noticed I said this has nothing to do with results and failing to be competitive, and everything to do with the way United do their business, on and off the pitch.

I watch football to be entertained, and to see the game played by players who actually appear to be enjoying what they do. Which is why I much preferred the days of Gordon Hill, Steve Coppell, Jimmy Greenhoff, Stuart Pearson and their ilk, when all we had to celebrate was the occasional cup run, over the bilge served up during the last few years.

Glory hunter? A cheap shot, and so far from the truth it’s unbelievable.

Yes, I read it twice to make sure i hadn't misread it.

When you were watching Gordon Hill, Steve Coppell, Jimmy Greenhoff, Stuart Pearson and their ilk, i'll bet my last shilling not once you thought about how the club was doing their business etc.

Being entertained?? Football isnt entertainment. They're not there to entertain fans. They're there to play football and win games anyway they can. If it's great football then great thats a bonus.

You were there for the glory years and enjoyed them, now your losing/struggling "you're not going back until they do the business on the pitch". How about riding the low years and standing by your team?

No cheap shot at all. Just my opinion.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Everton showing just how fortunes can change and a decent comeback after the Burnley result but it merely shows how woeful United now are, The new manager has a massive job and getting the players to actually give 100% every game and ship out the massive egos is not going to be easy. Villa another side that can produce great football but can also look bang average like tonight.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I'm here Stu, what would you like to know?

Just checking in Slimey dear boy ???

 

[Billysboots]

Yes, I read it twice to make sure i hadn't misread it.

When you were watching Gordon Hill, Steve Coppell, Jimmy Greenhoff, Stuart Pearson and their ilk, i'll bet my last shilling not once you thought about how the club was doing their business etc.

Being entertained?? Football isnt entertainment. They're not there to entertain fans. They're there to play football and win games anyway they can. If it's great football then great thats a bonus.

You were there for the glory years and enjoyed them, now your losing/struggling "you're not going back until they do the business on the pitch". How about riding the low years and standing by your team?

No cheap shot at all. Just my opinion.

So, as a United fan for over fifty years, I’ve supported a team which had a period of success for twenty of them. I’ll let you do the maths, but all in that hardly places me in the glory hunter bracket, does it?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Steven Gerrard's Aston Villa not doing too well

Seems to be getting a free pass for some reason.
Have they gone backwards since he took over?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Codswallop.

If you can read the written word, you will have noticed I said this has nothing to do with results and failing to be competitive, and everything to do with the way United do their business, on and off the pitch.

I watch football to be entertained, and to see the game played by players who actually appear to be enjoying what they do. Which is why I much preferred the days of Gordon Hill, Steve Coppell, Jimmy Greenhoff, Stuart Pearson and their ilk, when all we had to celebrate was the occasional cup run, over the bilge served up during the last few years.

Glory hunter? A cheap shot, and so far from the truth it’s unbelievable.

So if someone said to you - Would you take Simeone if you were guaranteed to win the title ? What would your answer be ?

If Man Utd were winning would you really care how ?

It’s a results business and has been for a long time now

 

[Deleted member 1740]

So, as a United fan for over fifty years, I’ve supported a team which had a period of success for twenty of them. I’ll let you do the maths, but all in that hardly places me in the glory hunter bracket, does it?

In my opinion yes.

You lost interest in the season weeks ago, when your team starts under performing its easier to justify missing games etc.

I dont care what you've done previously, when your team is struggling there's always those who'll bail.

I've seen it myself at my own club under Evans,Houllier,Hodgson and Rodgers.

 

[clubchamp98]

Seems to be getting a free pass for some reason.
Have they gone backwards since he took over?

Could it be they are doing it properly and not just sacking managers lightly.
Most need two seasons at least.
Or is it just because he’s a scouser?

 

[Foxholer]

Seems to be getting a free pass for some reason.
Have they gone backwards since he took over?

How do you rate one 'free-fall' against another?!

 

[Slime]

Just checking in Slimey dear boy ???

 

[Billysboots]

So if someone said to you - Would you take Simeone if you were guaranteed to win the title ? What would your answer be ?

If Man Utd were winning would you really care how ?

It’s a results business and has been for a long time now

In all honesty? Yes.

When United won the FA Cup in 2016 I was driving home from Wembley with my lad, having watched a genuinely awful performance I would add, when news broke that LVG was out and was going to be replaced by Mourinho. My heart sank.

The expectation at that time was that Mourinho would bring success, but it was abundantly clear how that would be achieved. By playing dour football - sitting on 1-0 leads and boring the pants off the viewing public in the process.

I’m not lying when I say I that is not why I go to games. Sure, winning titles is great. But my motivation in watching United has always been the brand of football I was brought up seeing in the days when they won nothing, year after year. Winning whilst playing that brand of football is just the icing on the cake.

Football is a results business for the clubs. But I would still rather watch United throw the kitchen sink at a top side and lose 1-0, than bore me to death in beating the likes of Norwich by the same scoreline.

 

[Slime]

So if someone said to you - Would you take Simeone if you were guaranteed to win the title ? What would your answer be ?

If Man Utd were winning would you really care how ?

It’s a results business and has been for a long time now

If you were to ask me, I would honestly say "Thanks, but no thanks".
He's the master of anti-football.

 

[clubchamp98]

So if someone said to you - Would you take Simeone if you were guaranteed to win the title ? What would your answer be ?

If Man Utd were winning would you really care how ?

It’s a results business and has been for a long time now

That’s a very good question.
I think not
How about you .?
what do others think.?

 

[fundy]

So if someone said to you - Would you take Simeone if you were guaranteed to win the title ? What would your answer be ?

If Man Utd were winning would you really care how ?

It’s a results business and has been for a long time now

Genuinely no, wouldnt want him anywhere near Arsenal. Sadly more and more are going in that direction and its not always black and white, our current manager has plenty of traits that I dont agree with too

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If you were to ask me, I would honestly say "Thanks, but no thanks".
He's the master of anti-football.

So you would turn down winning the title because of the way a manager sets his tam up ?!

That’s a very good question.
I think not
How about you .?
what do others think.?

Of course would take him

Would take winning the league regardless of how it’s done -sport is a competition, it’s about winning titles and trophies at the top level.

Man Utd fans celebrate winning 20 titles - they don’t celebrate entertainment

 

[Slime]

So you would turn down winning the title because of the way a manager sets his team up ?!

Of course would take him

Would take winning the league regardless of how it’s done -sport is a competition, it’s about winning titles and trophies at the top level.

Man Utd fans celebrate winning 20 titles - they don’t celebrate entertainment

In an instant.
I'd sooner lose with honour, rather than win with shame.
I feel sorrow for those that feel otherwise.