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The Footie Thread

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ColchesterFC said:
Just checked the BBC live text for the Newcastle v Everton game....

20:20 Jamaal Lascelles own goal
20:22 Mason Holgate own goal

It's good of them to help each other out when both teams have been struggling to score goals.
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Everton goal - header on goal was from Holgate

Newcastle goal - header on goal was from Lascelles

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ColchesterFC said:
Just checked the BBC live text for the Newcastle v Everton game....

20:20 Jamaal Lascelles own goal
20:22 Mason Holgate own goal

It's good of them to help each other out when both teams have been struggling to score goals.
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And even better it was a Holgate shot that Lascelles diverted into his own net and a Lascelles header that Holgate diverted into his own net.
 
Piece said:
Not sure what music he is facing in a gentle home game against a relegation side. ?‍♂️
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The hostile every time he touches the ball. What else do you expect? Not like he is going to be beaten up is it

Altho the irony of so many people wanting him to be "done" on the pitch whilst being against violence ...
 
pauljames87 said:
The hostile every time he touches the ball. What else do you expect? Not like he is going to be beaten up is it

Altho the irony of so many people wanting him to be "done" on the pitch whilst being against violence ...
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Zouma shouldn’t be anywhere near the pitch tonight- the club should have been seen to do something. It’s a poor decision and one that says that the game of football is more important than safety of pets/animals.

If anyone of us was caught doing it there there would be consequences
 
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ColchesterFC said:
Absolute rubbish. Something that could lead to a prison sentence of up to 26 weeks is quite clearly a "police matter".

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/animal-cruelty-revised-2017/
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I think it is totally a police matter and reflective perhaps of where resources are being targeted although with the video evidence from his post it's not like there is a lack of evidence and he admitted doing it so why not prosecute. Send out a message
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I think it is totally a police matter and reflective perhaps of where resources are being targeted although with the video evidence from his post it's not like there is a lack of evidence and he admitted doing it so why not prosecute. Send out a message
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When I was a Detective Sergeant managing a city centre team of investigators, we occasionally received reports relating to animal cruelty. One of my responsibilities was the allocation of crime investigations to the most appropriate investigative resource.

Without exception I referred cases of animal cruelty, some far worse than this case, to the the local RSPCA, who were the most appropriate agency to investigate such offences. And without exception the RSPCA were happy to take ownership, occasionally with police support, but mostly without.

Sorry, but kicking a cat, whilst abhorrent, is not a police matter to investigate.
 
Billysboots said:
When I was a Detective Sergeant managing a city centre team of investigators, we occasionally received reports relating to animal cruelty. One of my responsibilities was the allocation of crime investigations to the most appropriate investigative resource.

Without exception I referred cases of animal cruelty, some far worse than this case, to the the local RSPCA, who were the most appropriate agency to investigate such offences. And without exception the RSPCA were happy to take ownership, occasionally with police support, but mostly without.

Sorry, but kicking a cat, whilst abhorrent, is not a police matter to investigate.
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What are the conviction rates for RSPCA cases going to court? I understand what you are saying in terms of allocating resources and it makes perfect sense. What I don't know, is how successful in the scheme of things are the RSPCA in getting the case to court and a guilty verdict?
 
HomerJSimpson said:
What are the conviction rates for RSPCA cases going to court? I understand what you are saying in terms of allocating resources and it makes perfect sense. What I don't know, is how successful in the scheme of things are the RSPCA in getting the case to court and a guilty verdict?
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I’ve no idea, as I never followed cases to Court. But I do know that the RSPCA locally regularly pursue animal cruelty cases through the Courts.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
What are the conviction rates for RSPCA cases going to court? I understand what you are saying in terms of allocating resources and it makes perfect sense. What I don't know, is how successful in the scheme of things are the RSPCA in getting the case to court and a guilty verdict?
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Just under 1,500 successful prosecutions originating from RSPCA investigations last year.
 
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