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Sorry to be a bit late to ask this, but I watch the West Ham game and I've watched the winning goal over and over. Why wasn't it offside? I've chacked the current rule and it seems to me the bloke who toe poked it home was in an offside position when he received the ball, or have I missed something?

He was behind the ball when it was played, wasn’t he?

If you’re talking about Kidderminster game?

The only question was whether the player in front of the keeper was interfering with play, don’t think he was though
 
Sorry to be a bit late to ask this, but I watch the West Ham game and I've watched the winning goal over and over. Why wasn't it offside? I've chacked the current rule and it seems to me the bloke who toe poked it home was in an offside position when he received the ball, or have I missed something?
He certainly was! But it is only an offence if that was the case when the ball was played or touched by a team-mate. As that was NOT the case in that incident, there is no offence!
 
St.Maximin an 11/10 performance tonight. All Everton could do was to kick him (when they got close enough to him that is)

Looks like Frank has lots of work to do....pretty spineless performance from Everton...didn't look like they were up for the fight.
But I thought that they signed the Scottish wonderkid from Rangers, has he not saved them yet .......
 
Classy from West Ham.
He was behind the ball when it was played, wasn’t he?

If you’re talking about Kidderminster game?

The only question was whether the player in front of the keeper was interfering with play, don’t think he was though

He was stood a foot away from the keeper directly in front of him, in a position that prevent he keeper an opportunity to block the cross. And had to jump out of the way of the ball. How is that not interfering with play?
 
Classy from West Ham.


He was stood a foot away from the keeper directly in front of him, in a position that prevent he keeper an opportunity to block the cross. And had to jump out of the way of the ball. How is that not interfering with play?

I think the interfering with play rule is a stupid one, and hard to apply consistently.

The reason I thought it was ok though was because the keeper went down at his near post Expecting a shot, the positioning of that player didn’t influence him.
 
Drive carefully mate ??
I decided the safest option was to hand over the car keys and sit in the back seat ?.

Well, we managed to give Newcastle a bucket full of confidence by the end of the night. We even managed to make Lascelles look good ?.

Frank clearly picked up the Marco Silva coaching handbook that had been left in his office and decided to try chapter 1, play from the back whatever the situation. I can't remember how many triangles we tried to play on the edge of our penalty area, how many times we gave Newcastle the ball unnecessarily. Crazy stuff.

We started with a selection of pace merchants up front, Richarlison, Gray, Townsend, Gordon and then proceeded to play from the back at a snail's pace, giving them no space to play in o_O. Richarlison clearly worked this out and then decided not to bother :rolleyes:. Having two players go off injured in the first half certainly hurt as that meant we couldn't hook him when we needed to.

The two redeeming performances last night were Gordon and Van de Beek. VdB replaced Gomes, the game sadly passed him by, and was bright, available, sharp, tidy. I doubt he gave the ball away at any stage. If he doesn't start at the weekend then something is very wrong.

Still worrying times but hopefully Frank re watches the game today and learns a great deal from it.
 
Not in this case, no.

The refereeing mistakes we spend days arguing about on here often aren’t clear cut. What Colch is dismissing as “absolute rubbish” happens to be very simple. And he’s wrong.

You'd better let both Surrey and Essex police know that it's not a matter for them. They have both started investigations into what happened. If it's not a police matter why are two separate police forces investigating?
 
Another fine win for United (Rotherham - there are more than one!) and now 9 points clear at the top of League One. Wigan have 3 games in hand but we are due to play them at home in 9 days time so will be a good match. We may also meet them at Wembley in the final of the Papa John's Trophy as both in the semis
 
Richarlison clearly worked this out and then decided not to bother :rolleyes:. Having two players go off injured in the first half certainly hurt as that meant we couldn't hook him when we needed to.

From the telly clapper perspective Richi didn’t seem all that bad and it seemed he put in a fair effort. He had some good moments and ran some rings around Schar. But without anyone to play any ball through to him for most of the match, yeah, maybe he gave up. He did scuff a good opportunity too.

We were really bad from the back again. I was biting my sofa every time Keane had the ball. And Pickford’s constant flapping at getting the ball back in play was not helping confidence.

Oh well. Said as much as I can on it now. Hopefully that’s shown Lampard where we need the work put in. I do think there was a lot of good in the game to take away, we just met a much better team. Newcastle were good to watch.
 
You'd better let both Surrey and Essex police know that it's not a matter for them. They have both started investigations into what happened. If it's not a police matter why are two separate police forces investigating?
Power of the people
Shout loud enough and something will be done.
He said it was a one off I seriously doubt that.
 
From the telly clapper perspective Richi didn’t seem all that bad and it seemed he put in a fair effort. He had some good moments and ran some rings around Schar. But without anyone to play any ball through to him for most of the match, yeah, maybe he gave up. He did scuff a good opportunity too.

We were really bad from the back again. I was biting my sofa every time Keane had the ball. And Pickford’s constant flapping at getting the ball back in play was not helping confidence.

Oh well. Said as much as I can on it now. Hopefully that’s shown Lampard where we need the work put in. I do think there was a lot of good in the game to take away, we just met a much better team. Newcastle were good to watch.
I probably have a bit of a downer on Richi as he seems to choose when he turns up or not. You may well be right in the effort put in, it just didn't lead to anything. I don't think he works well as a lone striker, he needs DCL up there to do that job and he can feed off him.

I was sat in the Toon fans and I am experienced enough not to jump when we scored and to stand and clap when they did. I struggled to contain my annoyance at the continual giving away of the ball from the back though, that was too much. I'm surprised a steward wasn't called over :LOL:. Absolute football suicide, it's what cost Silva his job. My son mentioned afterwards that we had over 60% of possesion according to the stats. All pointless if it is at the top of your own penalty area and it ends by you handing it to the opposition midfield :mad:
 
I probably have a bit of a downer on Richi as he seems to choose when he turns up or not. You may well be right in the effort put in, it just didn't lead to anything. I don't think he works well as a lone striker, he needs DCL up there to do that job and he can feed off him.

I was sat in the Toon fans and I am experienced enough not to jump when we scored and to stand and clap when they did. I struggled to contain my annoyance at the continual giving away of the ball from the back though, that was too much. I'm surprised a steward wasn't called over :LOL:. Absolute football suicide, it's what cost Silva his job. My son mentioned afterwards that we had over 60% of possesion according to the stats. All pointless if it is at the top of your own penalty area and it ends by you handing it to the opposition midfield :mad:
I don’t disagree with anything you say, but I really wouldn’t look too deep in to last nights performance, if we’d of beat Norwich Benitez would of still been in charge and we’d of still most likely been beat, why do I think that? Because in all honesty, sometimes in football, the better team on the night wins and deservedly so, even your point about giving the ball away at the back was most of the time down to how Newcastle set up and their pressing, Howe got them working hard and you can see how he’s improved them over the 10+ games he’s been in charge.

We are in a mess and we have to give Lampard time. Watching them in training and then on the pitch he will of learnt a lot, plus the bad luck with injuries is continuing for him.
 
Another fine win for United (Rotherham - there are more than one!) and now 9 points clear at the top of League One. Wigan have 3 games in hand but we are due to play them at home in 9 days time so will be a good match. We may also meet them at Wembley in the final of the Papa John's Trophy as both in the semis

Ahem, no thanks for SWFC doing you a huge favour last night? ?
 
I don’t disagree with anything you say, but I really wouldn’t look too deep in to last nights performance, if we’d of beat Norwich Benitez would of still been in charge and we’d of still most likely been beat, why do I think that? Because in all honesty, sometimes in football, the better team on the night wins and deservedly so, even your point about giving the ball away at the back was most of the time down to how Newcastle set up and their pressing, Howe got them working hard and you can see how he’s improved them over the 10+ games he’s been in charge.

We are in a mess and we have to give Lampard time. Watching them in training and then on the pitch he will of learnt a lot, plus the bad luck with injuries is continuing for him.
Surely though, when you see that then you adapt. We kept doing the same thing over and over and it was easy for Newcastle, we were predictable. Agree about Howe, he is doing a good job. Newcastle are becoming harder to beat, Trippier is a strong signing and in Saint Maximim they have a match winner. Funnily enough, the Toon fans around me spent half their time slagging him for getting caught in possesion and the other half praising for going past players. Fans :rolleyes:

The one thing I didn't mention, seen it at both games I have been at recently, the atmosphere at St James is entirely different than it has been for 5yrs+. So much more bouyant, noisier, behind the team. Significantly different to how it has been for some time, a positive, not a negative. (apart from the entirely sexist and 70's throwback chant at a female Everton fan in the second half which was shameful and by a fair chunk of supporters o_O)
 
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