The Footie Thread

[Swango1980]

That’s surely not a red card is it ?‍

I didn't think so when I first saw it. But on replay, his foot was really high, rather than Firminho ducking down. If I did that (which physically I couldn't) I know there's be a chance of kicking someone in the head. So right decision for me.

 

[clubchamp98]

It’s one of them ,he’s looking at the ball. It’s a bit harsh.
Very similar to the Mane one at City on Ederson.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I didn't think so when I first saw it. But on replay, his foot was really high, rather than Firminho ducking down. If I did that (which physically I couldn't) I know there's be a chance of kicking someone in the head. So right decision for me.

Really harsh - no intent etc , but I guess it’s got to be if Manes was against Ederson

Time for Atletico to find a way to even it up - Can’t see Simeone lasting long on the sideline

Starting with Trippier and then De Paul diving around

 

[Swango1980]

Really harsh - no intent etc , but I guess it’s got to be if Manes was against Ederson

I don't think intent matters. I'd imagine no player ever tries to kick someone in the head, or intend to break someones leg. It is about how dangerous their attempt is to control or win the ball, regardless of how genuinely they are trying to win it.

I remember Nani got sent off years ago for trying to control a ball that had just gone over his head, and his foot kicked the defender in the head behind him. Greizman's was certainly more of a red than that one, as Griezmem was in a crowd of players, whereas Nani wasn't necessarily aware anyone was near him.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I don't think intent matters. I'd imagine no player ever tries to kick someone in the head, or intend to break someones leg. It is about how dangerous their attempt is to control or win the ball, regardless of how genuinely they are trying to win it.

I remember Nani got sent off years ago for trying to control a ball that had just gone over his head, and his foot kicked the defender in the head behind him. Greizman's was certainly more of a red than that one, as Griezmem was in a crowd of players, whereas Nani wasn't necessarily aware anyone was near him.

Intent certainly does matter in some areas of the game. If a player swings a punch at another player but misses he will, or at least should be, sent off for intent. If a player jumps in the air and tries to stamp on another player who gets out of the way then he can be sent off for intent.

Or perhaps it's only that intent matters with deliberate acts like the two examples I've mentioned and in other areas it's endangering an opponent that gets the red card rather than the intent of the challenge.

 

[Swango1980]

Intent certainly does matter in some areas of the game. If a player swings a punch at another player but misses he will, or at least should be, sent off for intent. If a player jumps in the air and tries to stamp on another player who gets out of the way then he can be sent off for intent.

Or perhaps it's only that intent matters with deliberate acts like the two examples I've mentioned and in other areas it's endangering an opponent that gets the red card rather than the intent of the challenge.

To clarify, I meant intent does not matter in this specific situation.

If a player clearly ever intends to hurt someone, such as punching them and missing, of course it should be a red.

 

[Cherry13]

I really hope they do get Howe. Relegation confirmed conceding 65 goals in the process and be the richest team in the Championship. ?

Fonseca has went from 7/1 to 7/4 in last few hours… all on the back of a message from a certain former no9.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What a mental challenge ????

 

[IanM]

What a mental challenge ????

But was still pleading innocence.

Bunch of scumbags

 

[Swango1980]

What a mental challenge ????

Yeah, one of the most brain dead decisions I've ever seen. Newcastle should buy him, team up with Shelvey for some dramatic games

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And that’s a silly challenge when you know they are going to throw themselves to the ground

 

[IanM]

Oooh. Fell over. Quel surprise

 

[clubchamp98]

Good ref this lad??.?
Very suprized at that.
Stupid challenge from Jota

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I’m pretty staggered he overturned that

 

[IanM]

Blimey.

Dull rubbish this.

 

[Swango1980]

Pretty shocked Liverpool got away with that one. Certainly wasn't a clear and obvious error, definitely contact and Jota got in a bad position.

 

[hairball_89]

I’m pretty staggered he overturned that

Astounded. I'd be livid if it was the other way. Stone wall pen for me. Mad.

 

[fundy]

refs sooooo inconsistent

difference between griezman and ibrahimovic????

 

[clubchamp98]

Pretty shocked Liverpool got away with that one. Certainly wasn't a clear and obvious error, definitely contact and Jota got in a bad position.

Why is Jota there ?
They only have 10 men he should be nowhere near his own box.
Some shocking defending here.

 

[clubchamp98]

Didn’t expect Alison to be MOM after the first 15 mins.
We are so slow going forward.