The Footie Thread

[Slime]

Boris Johnson now getting involved and commenting that he'll work with football authorities to block this - and apparently the government could put the kibosh on UK clubs involvement (don't know how) and so it becomes political...and I suppose we cannot comment on his involvement. Which is a good thing.

I'm glad of that, surely that is a good thing?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm glad of that, surely that is a good thing?

It’s just nonsense - what exactly do people think he can do about it all - absolutely nothing , it’s just an empty vessel pandering to football fans.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It’s just nonsense - what exactly do people think he can do about it all - absolutely nothing , it’s just an empty vessel pandering to football fans.

My thoughts also - since when was it any business of government to get involved in decisions made by businesses such as these football clubs. I cannot comment or suggest why Johnson has Dowden making such a strong statement on the matter.
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[Doon frae Troon]

And where are you getting 6 big names from those 2 leagues?

That is the kind of thinking that has got the Premier league to where it is today.
Mega Millionaires controlling what's happening.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

My thoughts also - since when was it any business of government to get involved in decisions made by businesses such as these football clubs. I cannot comment or suggest why Johnson has Dowden making such a strong statement on the matter.
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Deflection at it's finest

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Are you people saying the Government can’t get involved living in cloud cuckoo land?

They are involved at all levels and many, many aspects of top flight football have to comply with Government Regulations etc!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Are you people saying the Government can’t get involved living in cloud cuckoo land?

They are involved at all levels and many, many aspects of top flight football have to comply with Government Regulations etc!

So what do you think the current government can do about 6 clubs wanting to playing in a new competition whilst still competing within their domestic competitions ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

So what do you think the current government can do about 6 clubs wanting to playing in a new competition whilst still competing within their domestic competitions ?

Who provides the licensing laws, Police Support, Overseas Works Permits etc etc, those are just a few of the ways any Government could make it difficult if not impossible to any PL teams wanting to join the ESL.

 

[IanM]

I wonder what these clubs "actually have in mind?"

They've tabled the doomsday scenario knowing there'd be mass opposition, so watch as "the compromise" they actually want suddenly appears. (I wonder eh?)

The folks moaning about Boris' comments, would also be moaning if he didn't comment.

On the radio this evening Adrian Durham reckons players won't do it if it means being banned from international football. I think he's wrong. They'll go wherever the pay is highest.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Who provides the licensing laws, Police Support, Overseas Works Permits etc etc, those are just a few of the ways any Government could make it difficult if not impossible to any PL teams wanting to join the ESL.

I thought that European clubs had to be free of government control/funding etc.

Wonderful double standards being shown by virtually everyone involved in the English Premier league and UK televised football. Many chickens have come home to roost

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Who provides the licensing laws, Police Support, Overseas Works Permits etc etc, those are just a few of the ways any Government could make it difficult if not impossible to any PL teams wanting to join the ESL.

Right now the Premier League help pump in around £7bn into the countries economy- just imagine how much extra revenue they potentially could earn from extra matches , increases wages for more tax and revenue. The government will do sweet FA just like they did nothing for any other sport that created new competitions

 

[IanM]

It’s just nonsense - what exactly do people think he can do about it all - absolutely nothing , it’s just an empty vessel pandering to football fans.

Withdrawal of licencing, permission to stage games, windfall taxes, refuse overseas work permits... that's just off the top of my head...

So plenty.

Corbyn would be on tv claiming he'd nationalise English football...and technically he could.

 

[fundy]

Some chatter that UEFA will meet tomorrow with a motion throwing City, Chelsea and Real Madrid out of the CL and Man U and Arsenal out of the Europa League

 

[fundy]

Withdrawal of licencing, permission to stage games, windfall taxes, refuse overseas work permits... that's just off the top of my head...

So plenty.

Corbyn would be on tv claiming he'd nationalise English football...and technically he could.

think his successor is keeping his head down having been slung out of the pub earlier

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Right now the Premier League help pump in around £7bn into the countries economy- just imagine how much extra revenue they potentially could earn from extra matches , increases wages for more tax and revenue. The government will do sweet FA just like they did nothing for any other sport that created new competitions

Sounds like you’ve gone from won’t to If to done deal.

Personally I’d be happy for anybody to get involved to try and stop this from happening, so I’ll wait and see.??

 

[Blue in Munich]

Who provides the licensing laws, Police Support, Overseas Works Permits etc etc, those are just a few of the ways any Government could make it difficult if not impossible to any PL teams wanting to join the ESL.

It appears the clubs currently pay an average of £8,500 per game, the average cost being £11,000.

https://thefsa.org.uk/news/cost-of-policing-is-making-clubs-pay-more-the-answer/

It will be a case of cutting ff their nose to spite their face as whilst they will save a few quid, they will lose out on the duty from the alcohol consumed, business rates as local businesses that need fans support go under and no doubt other things. The pub we use on match day reckon that football patronage covers their annual break even costs. It's a very complicated equation.

 

[IanM]

I thought that European clubs had to be free of government control/funding etc.

That would be a UEFA Regulation. They are miffed as they don't have their nose in this trough! So, they'll be happy to put the boot in

think his successor is keeping his head down having been slung out of the pub earlier

Ooh. Missed that

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Some chatter that UEFA will meet tomorrow with a motion throwing City, Chelsea and Real Madrid out of the CL and Man U and Arsenal out of the Europa League

And that gives the CL to PSG ? imagine that - the same PSG owned by Qatar who are getting the World Cup ??

Sounds like you’ve gone from won’t to If to done deal.

Personally I’d be happy for anybody to get involved to try and stop this from happening, so I’ll wait and see.??

Not sure what all that means

I still think it’s posturing because of the proposed changes to the CL by UEFA

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It appears the clubs currently pay an average of £8,500 per game, the average cost being £11,000.

https://thefsa.org.uk/news/cost-of-policing-is-making-clubs-pay-more-the-answer/

It will be a case of cutting ff their nose to spite their face as whilst they will save a few quid, they will lose out on the duty from the alcohol consumed, business rates as local businesses that need fans support go under and no doubt other things. The pub we use on match day reckon that football patronage covers their annual break even costs. It's a very complicated equation.

No doubt mate, but they have influences in lots of other areas that can have an impact, plus, how much revenue would they lose if Clubs went under due to this ESL and that’s without considering impacts on local communities etc.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Then so be it - but the player loses their right for international football and other competitions. Its no different to Oscar moving from Chelsea to Shanghai - for the player, more money, rubbish competition and wont get selected for Brazil playing there. But hes happy earning buckets of cash.

I'm a home and away supporter of my club. I donated heavily to help save Bury, I own shares of a team up north too (fan owned). Thats exactly the fan any club wants. Ive travelled the country, put money into local economies and enjoy everything about English football. The "big 6" are trying to destroy our beautiful game, not me.

My views that the players (of the big 6 currently) arent yet responsible are not inconsistent. They've not had their say yet although I doubt many will speak publicly due to fear of losing money from their employer.

The 6 clubs need a strong hard boot out of the EFL/ Premier league. They have lost all my respect and deserve to fail.

I've also been to 70 league grounds, 30 European games, seen my team on 3 different continents for over 40 years, season ticket holder for 35 years (maybe not next year).

The big 6 OWNERS are trying to destroy it for their own self centred greed NOT the big 6 FANS, so punish thousands of match goers for something out of their own hands? Seriously????? You mentioned not the "fault" of players, well its not the "fault" of the top 6 fans - thats your massive inconsistency.

What chance do we have of fan solidarity with "fans" like you.