The Footie Thread

[4LEX]

Wouldnt disagree with any of that apart from the bit that apart from the fact theres still nothing to say that Arteta is a good manager, just a half decent prospect on current evidence, as Ive said for years the issue at Arsenal is far bigger than the manager and sadly expect he will be another casualty rather than the solution

True the issue is the owners and the lack of ambition, hence why Arteta has his work cut out and is onto a loser. I expect him to leave for a bigger club before he's sacked.

 

[4LEX]

How many clubs nowadays give carte blanche to managers to do their own buying and selling? Most have recruitment teams that far exceed those of the one off scouts that used to go to matches. How many recruitment teams propose, and even buy, players that aren't worthy of the shirt at the bigger clubs?

There was a stats exercise carried out a few years back that showed at least one third of all players bought don't live up to the expectations placed on them.

Is Wenger and Arteta solely responsible for the failings of those bought in? I very much doubt it.

The recruitment has been bad at Arsenal for years. Wenger had total control but Emery and Arteta much less. Questions need to be asked about what Edu brings to the party or should that be partay (I'll get my coat)

 

[clubchamp98]

VAR ??
How’s that not a penalty for Burnley and Brighton.?

 

[Slime]

VAR ??
How’s that not a penalty for Burnley and Brighton.?

Didn't see the Burnley one.
The other one wasn't a penalty because it wasn't a foul, simple really.

 

[Slime]

A bit too much huff and puff, especially during the first half, but not finishing top four would be a disaster from where United are now. To think I didn’t give them a prayer after the first two months of this season, too.

Grinding results out when not playing well is the mark of a decent side, and United are in reasonable shape now. Still need a top quality centre half, 20-a-season striker and a right sided midfielder, but get two of those three in the summer and I’ll look forward to next season.

........... and a good CDM.
I must say, I was impressed with Brighton's Bissouma.

 

[clubchamp98]

Didn't see the Burnley one.
The other one wasn't a penalty because it wasn't a foul,simple really.

Sorry that’s a pen all day long.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56640577

Well this will tell how far we have truely come

 

[Blue in Munich]

Harry Maguire's theme song?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Didn't see the Burnley one.
The other one wasn't a penalty because it wasn't a foul,simple really.

It was a clear pen against Maguire

 

[Fade and Die]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56640577

Well this will tell how far we have truely come

Hope we go with Fornals in there not Noble.

It actually gives Moyes the chance to go for a more attacking game, but Moyes, being a negative arse. will opt for Noble and try to edge it 1-0, instead of really going for it.

 

[Slime]

Not to me, the ref, the VAR clowns or the commentator.
Not clear enough to those who make the decisions, thankfully, because if it had been given I don't think it would have been overturned.
To be fair, it could have gone either way.
Two threes and a six.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Hope we go with Fornals in there not Noble.

It actually gives Moyes the chance to go for a more attacking game, but Moyes, being a negative arse. will opt for Noble and try to edge it 1-0, instead of really going for it.

I'd like to see diop in there to cover .. or even caufal would litterally own any position defensively .. place him there with Frederick's in his place

Job done

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not to me, the ref, the VAR clowns or the commentator.
Not clear enough to those who make the decisions, thankfully, because if it had been given I don't think it would have been overturned.
To be fair, it could have gone either way.
Two threes and a six.

If it wouldn’t have been overturned if it was given then it’s a foul surely ?‍

https://twitter.com/x/status/1378805873309519872

this is the same Maguire who was complaining about UTD getting nothing from VAR


Only have to look who the ref is - did they bring back Webb to look at the VAR

 

[Slime]

If it wouldn’t have been overturned if it was given then it’s a foul surely ?‍

No, it's because the VAR guys are generally clowns and, given or not, it wasn't clear and obvious enough to overturn whatever decision the ref had made.

 

[clubchamp98]

Dean should have at least been told to go and have another look.
No attempt for the ball is red as well.

 

[4LEX]

Utd are a horrible side to watch. The quality of football they put out is shocking for an elite side. The luck they've had as been incredible all season apart from a month period where they had some 50/50's go against them, especially against West Brom and Chelsea. How did they respond? By having the captain claim they were being victimised and then Shaw accusing the ref of cheating by making something up, which was later proven to be untrue

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No, it's because the VAR guys are generally clowns and, given or not, it wasn't clear and obvious enough to overturn whatever decision the ref had made.

So if that’s Rashford being pulled back and clipped you would say it wasn’t a penalty

 

[Slime]

Utd are a horrible side to watch. The quality of football they put out is shocking for an elite side. The luck they've had as been incredible all season apart from a month period where they had some 50/50's go against them, especially against West Brom and Chelsea. How did they respond? By having the captain claim they were being victimised and then Shaw accusing the ref of cheating by making something up, which was later proven to be untrue

Don't watch them, it's not compulsory.

 

[Slime]

So if that’s Rashford being pulled back and clipped you would say it wasn’t a penalty

Of course I would, but Welbeck wasn't being pulled back and clipped enough to get a penalty.
Not even sure he was clipped at all.
There was contact between the two players, it's a football match and football is not yet a non-contact sport.
As I said before, two threes and a six.
It's all about opinions.
I'm a United fan, you're a L'Pool fan ........................... there may be a bit of bias on both sides if we're brutally honest.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Of course I would, but Welbeck wasn't being pulled back and clipped enough to get a penalty.
Not even sure he was clipped at all.
There was contact between the two players, it's a football match and football is not yet a non-contact sport.
As I said before, two threes and a six.
It's all about opinions.
I'm a United fan, you're a L'Pool fan ........................... there may be a bit of bias on both sides if we're brutally honest.

The contact from Maguire caused Welbeck to go to ground stopping him having a chance of getting the ball to have a very good chance to score , nothing to do with being a Liverpool fan - it was a clear foul , even if soft , it’s a penalty all day long and the type of clumsy defending that is seen by Maguire on a regular basis

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ar-manchester-united-penalty-call-3189541?amp