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The Footie Thread

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So you think from that a player gets kicked in the head in the box whilst they are playing the box it’s just a indirect free kick ?

Laid down I the laws of the game right there.

If you want to argue with the laws of the game contact FIFA
 
Laid down I the laws of the game right there.

If you want to argue with the laws of the game contact FIFA

Yet

https://www.thefa.com/football-rule.../football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

Direct free kick

A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:


Would you not say kicking someone chest high is a tad careless

Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed

Or maybe reckless

Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned
 
Yet

https://www.thefa.com/football-rule.../football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

Direct free kick

A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

Would you not say kicking someone chest high is a tad careless

Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed

Or maybe reckless

Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned

An overhead kick to try and clear the ball like he did there is not reckless as he was trying to play the ball

Was hallers overhead kick mid week not reckless play?

https://tribuna.com/en/arsenal/news...been-an-indirect-freekick-not-a-penalty-expl/

Even ex refs on the subject

Yes if someone kicked someone in the face on purpose it's a pen but when a balls to be won like that

Same as putting your head on the floor to win a ball when feet around being dangerous play.
 
Lots of things being thrown at klopp, some I’ve understanding with, but not this!
How about in a top of the league clash he had no one to call on. What part of that bench was stronger than the team he had on the pitch?
If you take that angle then why does he need 5 subs?

My post was meant to cover both that game and then bringing on Salah in a game that was clearly won today. Neither action backs up his need for 5 subs so that players can rest.
 
An overhead kick to try and clear the ball like he did there is not reckless as he was trying to play the ball

Was hallers overhead kick mid week not reckless play?

https://tribuna.com/en/arsenal/news...been-an-indirect-freekick-not-a-penalty-expl/

Even ex refs on the subject

Yes if someone kicked someone in the face on purpose it's a pen but when a balls to be won like that

Same as putting your head on the floor to win a ball when feet around being dangerous play.

Did Haller connect with someone around head/chest then ?

We aren’t talking about overhead kicks attempts on goal
 
Did Haller connect with someone around head/chest then ?

We aren’t talking about overhead kicks attempts on goal

Still going to win the ball though. What's the difference between attempting to score a goal with an overhead kick or clearing the ball with an overhead kick?

Ings head was much lower he went to win the ball aswell.
 
If you take that angle then why does he need 5 subs?

My post was meant to cover both that game and then bringing on Salah in a game that was clearly won today. Neither action backs up his need for 5 subs so that players can rest.

Why does it have to back up what every other european league are doing and European competitions ? He and other managers would like the “option” to be able to bring 5 subs on during an extensive season where many players are getting injured. Just because he and others would like that option doesn’t mean they would take it every match - and what does Salah coming on today have to do with it ?
 
An attackers head within vicinity of where he is kicking, ie recklessly!

Head 100% wasn't there when he started the challenge.

When he left the floor ings had not started his move down to the ball

Simple coming together.
 
Why does it have to back up what every other european league are doing and European competitions ? He and other managers would like the “option” to be able to bring 5 subs on during an extensive season where many players are getting injured. Just because he and others would like that option doesn’t mean they would take it every match - and what does Salah coming on today have to do with it ?
He and some managers, clearly not all. Managers of the bigger clubs, those with the stronger squads. 10 currently disagree.

Instead of subbing players he, and others, will need to rotate players from the start. Managers have been doing it for years. Klopp doesn't want to, I get that, but he will have to or accept the risk of picking the same players every game.

Salah was highlighted because today was a great chance for him to put his feet up, rest the muscles. Game won, give Origi a run out. He had no need to bring him on. He has put some strain on him today that was unnecessary.
 
I transferred Mane out for Salah in Fantasy this week. Imagine the rollercoaster ride as my mate told me Salah was dropped and that Mane had scored (me fuming), but then I check the score and it turns out Salah had come on and managed 2 goals and 1 assist in half an hour. :LOL: Paid off in the end, just about.
 
He and some managers, clearly not all. Managers of the bigger clubs, those with the stronger squads. 10 currently disagree.

Instead of subbing players he, and others, will need to rotate players from the start. Managers have been doing it for years. Klopp doesn't want to, I get that, but he will have to or accept the risk of picking the same players every game.

Salah was highlighted because today was a great chance for him to put his feet up, rest the muscles. Game won, give Origi a run out. He had no need to bring him on. He has put some strain on him today that was unnecessary.

Did Salah look strained ? It looked a good 30 mins run out to keep up his run of form with a couple of goals and also got to give Mane a run out , Origi is on his way out. Got to ensure players stay hungry as well as rested - fine balance.

It’s prob the most physically intense league and yet the only one with 3 subs and about to hit a more intense phase of the season.
 
Did Salah look strained ? It looked a good 30 mins run out to keep up his run of form with a couple of goals and also got to give Mane a run out , Origi is on his way out. Got to ensure players stay hungry as well as rested - fine balance.

It’s prob the most physically intense league and yet the only one with 3 subs and about to hit a more intense phase of the season.
No he didn't look strained but it is about miles on the clock. Plenty of games coming up in a short space of time. Rest him today, no need to worry about subbing him in 3 games time. If the game was on a knife edge then I could understand but it was unnecessary today. It was even the sort of day today when you could have brought on one of your young lads, don't know if you had anyone like that of course.
 
No he didn't look strained but it is about miles on the clock. Plenty of games coming up in a short space of time. Rest him today, no need to worry about subbing him in 3 games time. If the game was on a knife edge then I could understand but it was unnecessary today. It was even the sort of day today when you could have brought on one of your young lads, don't know if you had anyone like that of course.

Nothing beats keeping match fitness and little run out for players whilst there is little risk , Klopp knows his players and how to manage them both mentally and physically - he brought off Mane who will now be dying to get back on whilst keeping Mo form going nicely, seems perfect management
 
Predictably dire first half, kind of Everton create a chance for our 70m dead ball specialist as we clearly werent going to bother, and even then we still go in behind

Ceballos a bit fortunate not to be this weeks red card idiot too
 
Predictably dire first half, kind of Everton create a chance for our 70m dead ball specialist as we clearly werent going to bother, and even then we still go in behind

Ceballos a bit fortunate not to be this weeks red card idiot too

This weeks fool. What the heck was that all about? Love the fake injury. Similar to Mo's mid week. Wonder if they go to the same drama class?

I am not expecting anything out of this. Willian is as anonymous as ever, Luiz is shot, and rubbish, against an in form Everton. No, it's not going to happen.
 
This weeks fool. What the heck was that all about? Love the fake injury. Similar to Mo's mid week. Wonder if they go to the same drama class?

I am not expecting anything out of this. Willian is as anonymous as ever, Luiz is shot, and rubbish, against an in form Everton. No, it's not going to happen.


Wilian had a grand total of 14 touches in the first half, less than anyone else, and did less than anyone with them. That will be 250k please
 
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