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The Footie Thread

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Just because he wants 5 subs, like the rest of all the big European leagues, doesn't mean he has to or wants use them every week. Its about having the ability to do so when the games are coming thick and fast.

Stu I'm sorry but this is blindly defending klopp

He is a fantastic manager. A real breath of fresh air to this league but he is wrong on this count and the calling for 5 subs then not using any backed it up it's not needed. Games are coming thick and fast now the game was wednesday and now Saturday .. exact reason he had said he needed 5 subs

He did not need to bring Salah on at 4-0 up. If Salah breaks down next game would you defend him then when he could have had the entire game off?
 
Stu I'm sorry but this is blindly defending klopp

He is a fantastic manager. A real breath of fresh air to this league but he is wrong on this count and the calling for 5 subs then not using any backed it up it's not needed. Games are coming thick and fast now the game was wednesday and now Saturday .. exact reason he had said he needed 5 subs

He did not need to bring Salah on at 4-0 up. If Salah breaks down next game would you defend him then when he could have had the entire game off?
I think @davemc1 answered this best.
it’s a top of the table clash. which they won last minute with their best players on. Obviously klopp decided that it was better to risk their health in that game and worse case need to rest lots of them for the weaker opposition they would face the next week.
 
Using Man City as an example:
14 weeks since season began, they’ve played 23 games, due to International breaks they have played them in “12” weeks effectively.

in the next 14 weeks (no International break till end of the period) they are scheduled to play 20 games, obviously this depends on FA Cup and Caraboa Cup results.

After the Christmas/New Year stupidity they’ll have only 15 games in 11 weeks and that includes 2 CL games.

Best case some PL Clubs will play 16 games in 14 weeks and worst case (City) 23 games plus any FA Cup ties or replays.

Either way there is more rest between games once this stupid period is out of the way.

Whether you need 1, 3 or 5 subs those matches will be played and managers will make decisions, even with 5 subs there will be injuries.

Teams in the past have won Leagues and European Trophies with a 1 Sub rule and used basically the same 11-15 players for the whole season.

Do I care if it’s 3 or 5 subs? No in all honesty, there are far more important things wrong with the game I wish managers would focus on.
 
Stu I'm sorry but this is blindly defending klopp

He is a fantastic manager. A real breath of fresh air to this league but he is wrong on this count and the calling for 5 subs then not using any backed it up it's not needed. Games are coming thick and fast now the game was wednesday and now Saturday .. exact reason he had said he needed 5 subs

He did not need to bring Salah on at 4-0 up. If Salah breaks down next game would you defend him then when he could have had the entire game off?

No its not.

10 managers at the last meeting voted for the extra subs, including your own if I'm not mistaken.

Going by your point, we might as well not have 3 subs if managers don't use all 3 every game

Its dead easy after the event to say what he needed to do or not. He's the manager and makes the decisions he sees fit. Injuries happen, its not the managers fault.

Don't forget there's a EURO in the summer, England will suffer because if this.
 
No its not.

10 managers at the last meeting voted for the extra subs, including your own if I'm not mistaken.

Going by your point, we might as well not have 3 subs if managers don't use all 3 every game

Its dead easy after the event to say what he needed to do or not. He's the manager and makes the decisions he sees fit. Injuries happen, its not the managers fault.

Don't forget there's a EURO in the summer, England will suffer because if this.
Or not, as we have so many top players from Europe in our League it could be part of a plan to knacker them.;)
 
Nit sure whether to be annoyed or pleased. Really bossed the first half and deserved to be in front. Sloppy defending to commit the foul (and no qualms about the red card). After that hard to get anything on the break but contained Newcastle well. Trouble now is Brighton will win tomorrow and so the gap will be back to four points with tricky games against Southampton at home and Spurs away.

Surprised at your view on the penalty/red card.... I didn't think it was even a foul, let alone a penalty and sending off.

When he went over to check the screen supposedly it was to check for the red card, not even to check if it was a penalty or not..... Absolute madness in my eyes.
 
Surprised at your view on the penalty/red card.... I didn't think it was even a foul, let alone a penalty and sending off.

When he went over to check the screen supposedly it was to check for the red card, not even to check if it was a penalty or not..... Absolute madness in my eyes.

Just watched MOTD and absolutely agree with this. Never a pen and can't believe he was sent off. Clear as day yellow for Wilson.

Scott Parker was absolutely right for me. You can see why he's given it in real time. Soon as you see it again, how the ref "doubled down" on the pen is mad.
 
No its not.

10 managers at the last meeting voted for the extra subs, including your own if I'm not mistaken.

Going by your point, we might as well not have 3 subs if managers don't use all 3 every game

Its dead easy after the event to say what he needed to do or not. He's the manager and makes the decisions he sees fit. Injuries happen, its not the managers fault.

Don't forget there's a EURO in the summer, England will suffer because if this.

Incorrect. 10 owner voted against it not managers

West ham voted against it however Moyes I believe is for it.

Other nations will suffer aswell as a lot of players play in England ... Not just English.
 
Stu I'm sorry but this is blindly defending klopp

He is a fantastic manager. A real breath of fresh air to this league but he is wrong on this count and the calling for 5 subs then not using any backed it up it's not needed. Games are coming thick and fast now the game was wednesday and now Saturday .. exact reason he had said he needed 5 subs

He did not need to bring Salah on at 4-0 up. If Salah breaks down next game would you defend him then when he could have had the entire game off?

“He is wrong” ? Sorry but how can you say that he is wrong when he knows his players a hell of a lot more than someone on the Internet.

You appear to be unable to see beyond the whole black and white of the situation and not looking at each game and the situation of the game itself - it was a top of the table clash and very tight and close and as a manager he made a judgement not to make a change because of how the game was going. It’s about having the option to be able to make further changes if needed during games , just because the option is there doesnt mean it has to be used , I suspect he would have used 5 against Palace if he had the choice.

The whole of Europe have gone to 5 subs plus in CL etc - and he has an opinion for player benefit that the Prem should do the same
 
“He is wrong” ? Sorry but how can you say that he is wrong when he knows his players a hell of a lot more than someone on the Internet.

You appear to be unable to see beyond the whole black and white of the situation and not looking at each game and the situation of the game itself - it was a top of the table clash and very tight and close and as a manager he made a judgement not to make a change because of how the game was going. It’s about having the option to be able to make further changes if needed during games , just because the option is there doesnt mean it has to be used , I suspect he would have used 5 against Palace if he had the choice.

The whole of Europe have gone to 5 subs plus in CL etc - and he has an opinion for player benefit that the Prem should do the same

Which his opinion has been voted down 3 times is it now?

Yes he does know his team better than those on the internet which ironically includes you Phil ... And all the defending you can do of him he keeps pushing for 5 subs saying it will help everyone yet outside the top 6 those teams are coping fine without the extra subs.

The league has spoken on the matter and it won't change its mind not enough agree.
 
A proper game of football at Brighton. Both teams gave everything, a good few chances. Brighton should have won but Sheffield made it hard for them. Not sure how the last minute melee didn't lead to a Brighton goal. A good start to the days football.
 
A proper game of football at Brighton. Both teams gave everything, a good few chances. Brighton should have won but Sheffield made it hard for them. Not sure how the last minute melee didn't lead to a Brighton goal. A good start to the days football.

would agree with that if the ref hadnt sent a man off for winning the ball :)
 
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