The Footie Thread

[Lord Tyrion]

I can’t remember this team being in the league. Wasn’t even sure where the town was until I googled it.

Famous for its crooked church spire.

I also threw up on its streets as a child when my dad picked up a Datsun from a Chesterfield dealer, car sick. That probably didn't make it into wikipedia though.

 

[Liverbirdie]

What about Villa and Newcastle ? They have been in the Premiership more seasons than West Ham and Southampton. In fact longer than Man City.

Whilst googling the above, I checked out which teams have had just one season in the top tier, not just Premiership. There are six teams, three that are in my memory and three not so easy. Anyone get them without google assistance ?

top of my head, swindon, carlisle although did new brighton get in it years ago for one season?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I can’t remember this team being in the league. Wasn’t even sure where the town was until I googled it.

Behave Do you not remember them reaching the Cup semi final in 1997 drawing 3-3 with Boro before losing the replay, all while being in Div 2 (now Div 1), knew they had history, so worth a stab.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Ooooh I like these teasers...but canon's think of 5


1. Oxford
2. Oldham
3. Grimsby
4.Blackpool
5.Barnsley
6.

Oxford a possible, went there once about 87, dont remember them up before or since. I think barnsley have been up more than once. Werent Blackpool a big club in the 50's?

Not sure on Grimsby, but Oldham were up for a few season, iirc.

One of the Bristols?

 

[richart]

Behave Do you not remember them reaching the Cup semi final in 1997 drawing 3-3 with Boro before losing the replay, all while being in Div 2 (now Div 1), knew they had history, so worth a stab.

I don't mean Chesterfield I mean the sixth team.

I have two small statues in the garden from Chesterfield market. Kevin Davies was part of the cup run team. We beat them 4-2 to stay up on the last game of the season once. Losing 2-0 at half time, but the mighty Biscuitmen roared back. About time they got that spire straightened as well.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I take it:
Swindon, Barnsley, Carlisle all confirmed.
LP went for Northampton and Orient, I think Rich confirmed,
So missing 1, if above correct, and they are now Non-League, possibly from Derbyshire if Richart’s geography knowledge is to be trusted.

Haven’t got a clue, try again tomorrow.

 

[richart]

Oxford a possible, went there once about 87, dont remember them up before or since. I think barnsley have been up more than once. Werent Blackpool a big club in the 50's?

Not sure on Grimsby, but Oldham were up for a few season, iirc.

One of the Bristols?

Dont you remember watching the Mathews Cup final ? Blackpool were a decent team in the 50's.

I remember seeing Bristol City playing in the first division. Went to Ashton Gate a few times when on courses with Midland Bank.

Oldham were a decent team under Joe Royle. No one liked playing them away mid week in winter.

Always had a soft spot for Barnsley. We beat them 7-0 at home when Michael Parkinson was at the game. After every goal we were singing Parky Parky what's the score. He wrote about it in the Sunday paper he wrote for.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Dont you remember watching the Mathews Cup final ? Blackpool were a decent team in the 50's.

I remember seeing Bristol City playing in the first division. Went to Ashton Gate a few times when on courses with Midland Bank.

Oldham were a decent team under Joe Royle. No one liked playing them away mid week in winter.

Always had a soft spot for Barnsley. We beat them 7-0 at home when Michael Parkinson was at the game. After every goal we were singing Parky Parky what's the score. He wrote about it in the Sunday paper he wrote for.

No, but my grandad used to go away in the 40's and 50's on the rattler to the big Lancashire games like Preston and Blackpool, so thought they had been up before.

Bristol city was late 70's I think - every panini sticker pack of 6 seemed to have a Gerry Gow in them, could have given you 20 x Gerry Gows for a St. Mirren silver club badge back then.

Oldham is even colder than Stoke, midweek.

Bradford park avenue? Mansfield? Bishop Auckland?

 

[Canary_Yellow]

I know the answer to this one because it came up in a pub quiz I went to a couple of years ago....

Glossop

 

[richart]

Talking of Bristol City, reminded me of Paul Cheesley. Really good player, quick and good in the air. He was being talked about as playing for England under Don Revie. First game Bristol played back in the first division he scored the winner against Arsenal away. Second game got an awful injury against Stoke, clashed with Peter Shilton going for a cross. Never played again.

Just shows that all the top players that had great careers playing for club and country could have just been a Paul Cheesley away from their career being ended.

 

[richart]

I know the answer to this one because it came up in a pub quiz I went to a couple of years ago....

Glossop

But do you know the other five ?

 

[Canary_Yellow]

But do you know the other five ?

Haha! I would have guessed Barnsley and Swindon, none of the others though.

I couldn’t believe glossop had a top flight side at any point when I heard the answer at the quiz (I think it was smallest town to have a top tier side, and the clue related to north end but was clear it wasn’t Preston). Suffice to say no one got the answer right. Sticks in the memory once you know though!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Glossop!! ffs, wouldn’t of got that in a million years! Off to google.

 

[Captainron]

This new proposal is a weird one for me. It has some merit but will obviously be divisive because clubs lower down the ladder aspire to be in the Premier League as it stands.

As with many things this isn’t really a local thing but rather an international one.

How many of the clubs below the Premier League are internationally relevant? I would say that only those that have been in the Premier League previously are widely known outside of these shores.

So as far as a product goes, the clubs in the second tier and down are not attractive to the rest of the world where the growth in revenue will come from. So unfortunately someone sitting in Kazakhstan or Belize who has a PC and internet has just as much pull on this issue as someone who sits in the stands each week.

Some sort of breakaway will happen at some point where the top teams take their product away and set up on their own.

A European Super league has been talked about for ages but hasn’t happened for various reasons but current Pandemic is a perfect economic catalyst for a breakaway in some of the big clubs eyes.

This may be the first shot in a war that ends with the football landscape changing out of all recognition.

 

[USER1999]

Have heard today that part of the proposal would retrospectively give Spurs a refund on some of their stadium costs, and also part fund a new one for Liverpool. If true, this is a disgrace. You should always have to fund your own home.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Glossop!! ffs, wouldn’t of got that in a million years! Off to google.

I was thinking that when I read it. Other teams mentioned, and wrong, had some logic to them. Glossop, never would have got it even if I was left to name teams for the rest of the year.

Great question @richart , a nice diversion from everything else going on.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Glossop ?!?! Well that’s a bit of knowledge that will be retained for future quizzes. Cheers for that Rich

As for the proposal - it’s the first step towards a European League - and that’s going to be the worst that has happened. American owners look at their sports and believe it’s the blueprint - doesn’t always work

 

[Canary_Yellow]

Have heard today that part of the proposal would retrospectively give Spurs a refund on some of their stadium costs, and also part fund a new one for Liverpool. If true, this is a disgrace. You should always have to fund your own home.

Tell that to West Ham and Man City

 

[fundy]

Have heard today that part of the proposal would retrospectively give Spurs a refund on some of their stadium costs, and also part fund a new one for Liverpool. If true, this is a disgrace. You should always have to fund your own home.

125m and 30m respectively on all accounts

6 sides with their noses well and truly in the troughs, ring fencing what isnt "rightfully" theirs, including my club sadly

 

[Canary_Yellow]

Agreed. The big clubs (including my own), trying to ringfence eternal premiership membership, following on from what has happened in the CL over the years. Its wrong. Everyone should have a chance of being in the prem and also being relegated.

This sums up how I feel about it; it isn't the right direction for English football to go in.

Removing parachute payments makes the financial risk required of Championship teams being promoted even greater than it already is. A smaller league will make staying in the league even harder.

The playoff system of having 16th place join the championship sides vying for promotion is just giving an advantage to a premier league side. The playoffs are more than entertaining enough without introducing another team to them which has the benefit of premier league millions for at least a season giving them an unfair advantage. West Ham finished 16th last season, I'm sure we can all agree that West Ham would have demolished Fulham and avoided relegation.

Although the PL would be giving more money to the football league, it would be making the PL more exclusive and less accessible. Also, with two fewer teams, there would be even more money available to the remaining 18 sides, I don't think anything is really being given away to the football league here, to suggest it is, frankly is ridiculous.

I have the benefit of supporting a side that isn't always in the PL, often it's not. And that's fine with me. It's not the be all and end all, that's for sure. The joy of a promotion winning season is better than the reality of being in the top flight, but if you take away the hope that comes with promotion, what's left? Football needs hope, that's what fans thrive on, this proposal takes away hope for a lot of football league clubs as the bridge between the PL and everyone else widens.