IanM
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It’s clear and obvious there was no contact on Sterling - you can see that within 19 seconds and two angles - so he gave a penalty when Sterling wasn’t touched , it’s that not a clear and obvious error ?
We’ll have to agree to disagree! It’s a clear and obvious error if there’s no contact whatsoever but there was. Not enough to bring Sterling down, but equally enough to mean the error wasn’t clear and obvious.
I’d be unhappy if that penalty had gone the other way but the debate here is whether VAR was correctly applied, not whether the penalty decision was correct. For me VAR was spot on. The referee wrong, but VAR spot on.
IanM
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Like playing links golf, sometimes it bounces on the green, sometimes it bounces in the bunker.
Tonight we got the marginal call. Plenty of other times we haven't.
Given some of the above, I wonder what number some folk write on their card if they make par after a lucky bounce!
Tonight we got the marginal call. Plenty of other times we haven't.
Given some of the above, I wonder what number some folk write on their card if they make par after a lucky bounce!
RichA
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Had to rush off so I didn't see the super slow motion footage, but I thought both defenders clipped him.
Denmark were ok but England were better and deserved to win.
I've watched every major tournament since 78 and don't remember any team that's got to a final playing only beatiful, uncynical football. Those types of team normally go out in the semis or quarter finals.
Kane's constant looking for free kicks bothers me more than anything Sterling does. I'm just ecstatic that we've reached the final.
Denmark were ok but England were better and deserved to win.
I've watched every major tournament since 78 and don't remember any team that's got to a final playing only beatiful, uncynical football. Those types of team normally go out in the semis or quarter finals.
Kane's constant looking for free kicks bothers me more than anything Sterling does. I'm just ecstatic that we've reached the final.
PJ87
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Very excited for Sunday , apart from one fa cup final (that we lost) I've never been involved in a major final as a fan. (Play off finals excluded lol)
Great bit of history just wish the daughter was a bit older to enjoy it with me. She won't be able to stay up will fall asleep and would get bored lol
Kellfire
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“There was no contact”
Well done on not knowing the laws of the game.
Well done on not knowing the laws of the game.
clubchamp98
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I thought Sterling had a good game except for his finishing again.
But less effective on the right he seems better coming inside from the left.
Thought the ref made some crucial mistakes .
Foul for their goal was very soft, never a pen for me.
But we dug it out and not the best game in the world but we won.
Kane is to deep again and we had no presence in the box most of the night.
Sitting back in last 15 mins when they only had 10 men seemed very strange decision imo.
But we won so well done GS.
But less effective on the right he seems better coming inside from the left.
Thought the ref made some crucial mistakes .
Foul for their goal was very soft, never a pen for me.
But we dug it out and not the best game in the world but we won.
Kane is to deep again and we had no presence in the box most of the night.
Sitting back in last 15 mins when they only had 10 men seemed very strange decision imo.
But we won so well done GS.
Diving is cheating.
Owners injecting cash has been part of football long before the Roman came to London.
If you were gonna use any Chelsea analogy, I'd have at least gone with them hoovering up youth stars as they were at least charged and therefor found to have done something wrong. ..
PJ87
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Ok. Drogba. One of the biggest dives and cheats to ever grace the English game
Chelsea hero
Anyways point is England are through to our first final at a major tournament in 55 years
Should be nothing but positive vibes
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Need to try again I'm afraid.
Your point was made against Rich's opinion, not all Chelsea fans and Rich has on multiple occasions slagged off his own players.
I don't recall people saying they're disappointed with wining either.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
One goal conceded in nine and a half hours of football and what a shot it was!
That's what it takes to have even a chance of beating this team. The teamwork and effort put in was outstanding again.
Please forgive me for being very biased, but Kasper would have had little difficulty saving a shot from that range. Just wish he was English.
That's what it takes to have even a chance of beating this team. The teamwork and effort put in was outstanding again.
Please forgive me for being very biased, but Kasper would have had little difficulty saving a shot from that range. Just wish he was English.
harpo_72
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Pleased they got through that was a physical game, which we knew it would be. Sterling performed and really showed us what he can do ?.
I am sorry but my view on the penalty might differ, you just cannot man handle a player in the box.
KS was immense in the Denmark goal, but some of the physical blocking deserved more cards and the long down time for injuries was unacceptable..
But well done England!!
I am sorry but my view on the penalty might differ, you just cannot man handle a player in the box.
KS was immense in the Denmark goal, but some of the physical blocking deserved more cards and the long down time for injuries was unacceptable..
But well done England!!
PJ87
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To be fair with the amount of time he has lived in this country we could have tried to call him up no? But back then he wasn't rated..city let him go in favour of hart. He has matured into a brilliant keeper
Smiffy
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Reasonable game, a bit scrappy in places, but we got the required result. Wasn't as entertaining as the previous nights semi, but that was a hard act to follow.
I too was surprised Pickford didn't make a better job of the free kick, and as an ex-goalkeeper he worries me sometimes. I'm not particularly keen on how he punches at balls he could quite easily catch. But hey-ho.
Was it a penalty? I don't think so. But there have been plenty of dodgy ones given over the years so just another to add to the tally I suppose.
I'd love to see England win on Sunday if only to shut the constant references to 1966 up.
But I think they are going to have to seriously raise their game against the Italians.
I too was surprised Pickford didn't make a better job of the free kick, and as an ex-goalkeeper he worries me sometimes. I'm not particularly keen on how he punches at balls he could quite easily catch. But hey-ho.
Was it a penalty? I don't think so. But there have been plenty of dodgy ones given over the years so just another to add to the tally I suppose.
I'd love to see England win on Sunday if only to shut the constant references to 1966 up.
But I think they are going to have to seriously raise their game against the Italians.
PJ87
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They were talking about new balls for.the semis and final which move about more...we have had this issue since about 2014 I think when they had balls for one world cup that were all over the place making it harder to catch
Nobody really mentions the pen that was pretty strong on Kane .. got clattered
Junior
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Sometimes when you're not playing well in a game you need the rub of the green and you have to win ugly.
Yes, Mount was ineffective , Pickford was ropey, Southgate's extra time subs should have been made after 70 minutes and Kane should have got in the box more but we got over the line.
Taking the positives, I thought Kyle Walker was immense, they shut Shaw down but he still looked dangerous on the overlap and sterling / saka looked very threatening. Southgate needs to get his tactics spot on Sunday and you never know.......
Yes, Mount was ineffective , Pickford was ropey, Southgate's extra time subs should have been made after 70 minutes and Kane should have got in the box more but we got over the line.
Taking the positives, I thought Kyle Walker was immense, they shut Shaw down but he still looked dangerous on the overlap and sterling / saka looked very threatening. Southgate needs to get his tactics spot on Sunday and you never know.......
Captainron
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Wow. How much did the team celebrate on the pitch afterwards? It’s like they had won the whole thing? Still a fairly big obstacle to overcome on Sunday. Just show the clip of them singing and dancing to sweet Caroline to the Italians for a bit of motivation.
Smiffy
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I drew England out in the works sweep. Got to be honest, when I first saw who I'd drawn I wanted to slash my wrists.............whatever happens on Sunday I'm going to win a tenner. I might, (might), get lucky and win a £50.00 note!!
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The morning after the night before???????
Thought it was a good game, Denmark deserved the lead, they’d done their homework and knew exactly how England like to play from the back, thankfully the equaliser came soon after, which I think stopped them growing in belief, and gave us the upperhand.
2nd half only had 1 team in it and thought we did enough to win it in 90 minutes.
Welcome to the world of watching Pickford on a regular basis, although I think Damsgaard should be given a bit more credit for the quality of the strike.
Soft penalty, and any player in that position for any team at any level would of gone down and expected a penalty.
There was contact, as seen below.
As for the Final, anything can happen, we’ve seen it time and time again over the yesrs the form book or team’s failing to turn up or stepping up. Nothing to fear, more than capable of beating Italy, hopefully be a great game, ending with Kane lifting the trophy.
Thought it was a good game, Denmark deserved the lead, they’d done their homework and knew exactly how England like to play from the back, thankfully the equaliser came soon after, which I think stopped them growing in belief, and gave us the upperhand.
2nd half only had 1 team in it and thought we did enough to win it in 90 minutes.
Welcome to the world of watching Pickford on a regular basis, although I think Damsgaard should be given a bit more credit for the quality of the strike.
Soft penalty, and any player in that position for any team at any level would of gone down and expected a penalty.
There was contact, as seen below.
As for the Final, anything can happen, we’ve seen it time and time again over the yesrs the form book or team’s failing to turn up or stepping up. Nothing to fear, more than capable of beating Italy, hopefully be a great game, ending with Kane lifting the trophy.
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I don’t think for one minute they’d thought they’d won the whole thing, it was more relief for finally getting over the hoodoo of constant “nearly men” since 1966, every generation since has been compared to that and failed.
Italy celebrated with their fans the night before and rightly so. I doubt you’ll find one English supporter who thinks last night was anymore than a huge celebration of finally reaching another final.
