fundy
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just after he scored two in a game
good time to quote his stats, he score 1 or 2 more since?
just after he scored two in a game
good time to quote his stats, he score 1 or 2 more since?
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
What those stats do show is just how hard it is to score from a free kick directly thats for sure. JWP by far the best in the prem currently scores one every 20 games! No one else in the prem scored more than 1 all season! Maybe having someone lie down behind the wall does work ???
Was the only article available when I googled conversion rate TBF.just after he scored two in a game
Wasn't like I tried to hide it was old....
That being said. Whether it's 1in 8 or 20, I think his set plays would still be crucial to a Sam Allardyce style. Which we play.
fundy
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yeah its annoying not to be able to find current stats
you think were attractive as a big sam side
hopefully its all a bluff and once we get to the crucial games hes going to play 4 at the back, rice and 5 attackers 
I'm not sure Ronaldo is a great example to use. Only his ego has kept him on free kick taking duties for the last umpteen years. He had a successive miss number that was laughable recently, can't remember the number but it was plenty.
Your point is sound though. The ratio for any player isn't great so it isn't something to rely on. Players may get lots of oooo's and aaah's but not many go in. JWP is one of the better ones though to be fair so I get Orikoru's point. A good enough player to go in his own right without the bonus of his free kicks.
Orikoru
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Yeah Ronaldo is terrible at free kicks - nearly as bad as Kane who takes all of them for us on the basis of scoring one free kick ever in his life. Both of them just smack the ball and hope it moves around, but invariably crash it into the wall or the stands. That one occasional one that swerves in the top bins for Ronaldo is the one that gets played on YouTube over and over and everyone thinks he's great. I'd be surprised if he even scores more than 1 per season from taking every single one for his club.
It's not just free kicks on goal with JWP though. Let's say you're needing a goal, you've got the centre backs staying up, JWP is the man I'd want swing the free kicks into the box and the corners as well. Great delivery he has, and without Trent there it's maybe only Trippier that you could say has a really good delivery from crosses.
Or we could always put Kane back on corners...
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How great is Micah Richards
Such a breath of fresh imo
Such a breath of fresh imo
Orikoru
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I think he's a funny when he's having banter with the other ex-players, and the chemistry with him and Roy Keane is hilarious. But he is rubbish as an actual pundit. Offers no insight of any value at all. As I say though, he's more there as comedy value and light relief which is no bad thing when you have miserable gits like Souness in the studio.
Slime
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You're absolutely spot on.
I love it when he appears with Roy Keane ............................ comedy gold.
PJ87
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We as a nation need to stop calling up half fit players
Kane is ridiculous with his free kicks .. why on earth would you ever put the best striker in the world on a free kick when you want him on the end of it!!!!!
The best free kick taker I've seen in the flesh was payet. Never seen so many free kicks go in from one person in a short space of time ..
A lot of it is ego. Let's face it augero and Messi prob two of the worst pen takers around yet constantly get on them
Yeah Ronaldo is terrible at free kicks - nearly as bad as Kane who takes all of them for us on the basis of scoring one free kick ever in his life. Both of them just smack the ball and hope it moves around, but invariably crash it into the wall or the stands. That one occasional one that swerves in the top bins for Ronaldo is the one that gets played on YouTube over and over and everyone thinks he's great. I'd be surprised if he even scores more than 1 per season from taking every single one for his club.
It's not just free kicks on goal with JWP though. Let's say you're needing a goal, you've got the centre backs staying up, JWP is the man I'd want swing the free kicks into the box and the corners as well. Great delivery he has, and without Trent there it's maybe only Trippier that you could say has a really good delivery from crosses.
Or we could always put Kane back on corners...
Kane is ridiculous with his free kicks .. why on earth would you ever put the best striker in the world on a free kick when you want him on the end of it!!!!!
The best free kick taker I've seen in the flesh was payet. Never seen so many free kicks go in from one person in a short space of time ..
A lot of it is ego. Let's face it augero and Messi prob two of the worst pen takers around yet constantly get on them
Orikoru
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It drives me mad with Kane. Obviously there's a sense that he can pretty much do what he wants as we're lucky to have had him this long, which I understand. But honestly the guy is poor at free kicks. The only one I ever remember him scoring was a deflection against Villa in his debut season having just broken into the team! Ever since then he's pelted it over the bar, into the wall, or at best into the goalie's arms. Even when Bale is on the pitch - someone who is actually genuinely good at free kicks - Kane was taking them off him! It's ridiculous. I'm with you on Messi and Aguero being rubbish at penalties as well. Fair play they step up and take the responsibility to an extent, but I remember back in the day there were specialist penalty takers, and it didn't matter if they were a defender, like Stuart Pearce, Julian Dicks from your lot, Franck Leboeuf. It can't be hard to establish who's good at dead balls in training rather than just letting the star players pull rank on it.
PJ87
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We saw it this season with noble finalling being out the team (actually give him credit he is a brilliant spot kick taker) when we finally got one lingatd tried to take it and rice said no it's mine scored
Next game lingard got one missed
He scored another
Rice missed one
All the while whilst soucek who has a fantastic record with pens and has ice in his veins just twiddles his thumbs
Egos everywhere
clubchamp98
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I don’t dought what your stats are but isn’t that the managers job?
He should choose the taker based on results in training and games.
If you can see it so should he!
PJ87
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See that's the problem, training means nothing for pens really, no pressure
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Don't know if this should go here or random irritations; the laughable standard of journalism continues.
From today's Gossip page on the BBC website; France striker Olivier Giroud, 34, is set to choose AC Milan when his contract with Chelsea expires.
From the Chelsea FC website;
Chelsea Football Club can confirm that an option to extend Olivier Giroud’s contract by one year was exercised in April this year.
The Frenchman’s current deal was due to expire at the end of this campaign but an extension means the 34-year-old’s three-and-a-half-year stay in west London continues for another year.
From today's Gossip page on the BBC website; France striker Olivier Giroud, 34, is set to choose AC Milan when his contract with Chelsea expires.
From the Chelsea FC website;
Chelsea Football Club can confirm that an option to extend Olivier Giroud’s contract by one year was exercised in April this year.
The Frenchman’s current deal was due to expire at the end of this campaign but an extension means the 34-year-old’s three-and-a-half-year stay in west London continues for another year.
clubchamp98
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Yes ,we used to get 20 press ups if we missed.
clubchamp98
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Is that his agent fishing for a club?
No harm putting him out there.
People say that, and there is an element of truth in it, but sports pro's of many pressure sports practice and practice key moments, shots etc so that when that key moment happens for real they have the knowledge that they have done it successfully, repeatedly. I'd rather have someone take a penalty who has practiced 20 a day for days, weeks, months, than someone who hasn't bothered because there's no point in their mind.
