nickjdavis
Head Pro
Even though the tie is done I'm hoping that it will be entertaining enough that I don't have to resort to DIY.
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irip
Head Pro
I’ll be honest I won’t bother watching it ( I would if it was my team) the game is over.
I’m not coming round to do your DIY though
PaulMdj
Well-known member
As you say, that is if, and it could be a big if, a suitable manager is appointed or available, plus if you wait too long they may join other Clubs.
As for the shortlist of players, how many times have we seen issues with players being forced on to managers and it not working.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
The conversation with Van Der Sar last night was really , thought VDS was very good
Looking at the list they put up is there anyone missing ?
Pickford ? hart ?
Think the top two could swap
Big Nev should be higher, Reina should not be on there, Pickford should be
De Gea at 4
Behave
De Gea at 4
Behave
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Big Nev should be higher, Reina should not be on there, Pickford should be
De Gea at 4
Reina played 300 games for Liverpool with 177 clean sheets - 44%
Pickford a little bit less
Southall prob a bit better before the Prem ?
Would swap De Gea and VDS
Swango1980
Well-known member
He did say that if Southall had played his career in the PL, he would be right up near the top of the list. Called him the best keeper on the planet in his heyday.Big Nev should be higher, Reina should not be on there, Pickford should be
De Gea at 4
I was shocked he thought De Gea was better than Van der Sar. I'm sure if you asked most Man Utd fans who their best PL keepers were, Schmeichel and Van Der Sar would be 1 and 2. De Gea would probably be 3rd (but hopefully Lammens will be up there in a few years), but a distant 3rd to our top 2.
I'm not sure about Reina myself. Pickford is probably hammered simply because he hasn't played for one of the PL teams fighting for the league title. Martinez, Lehman and Given may get votes from certain fan groups. There are keepers presently that could easily get into it in a few years time, like Donnaruma or Raya.
I was shocked that they didn't even give Onana an honourable mention
Stats really can mess about when it gets to keepers. Reina will have better stats than Pickford because he played in a better team. I'd have Jordan every day over him. I don't say that Reina was poor but I don't think he was a top 10 keeper.
Fair point about Southall.
At best I'd have De Gea at 10, but that might be generous still.
Given is a good shout. Lloris at Spurs? It's hard to remember names, particularly if they were not at one of the bigger teams.
Fair point about Southall.
At best I'd have De Gea at 10, but that might be generous still.
Given is a good shout. Lloris at Spurs? It's hard to remember names, particularly if they were not at one of the bigger teams.
anotherdouble
Journeyman Pro
So Chris Kavanagh is back for united palace this weekend on sky. I very much doubt extensive training has taken place in the break. His sidekick on the line has got Watford game Friday night and back for a midweek premiere game the following week.
irip
Head Pro
I think we have seen a lot of top keepers in the premier league not mentioned.
Just off the top of my head
Cudicini
David James
Harper
Friedel
Robinson
Given
Hart
Pickford
Lloris
Bosnich
Martyn
Maybe not top level but all worth a shout in discussion about top 10
Just off the top of my head
Cudicini
David James
Harper
Friedel
Robinson
Given
Hart
Pickford
Lloris
Bosnich
Martyn
Maybe not top level but all worth a shout in discussion about top 10
Swango1980
Well-known member
I thought everyone was always slating Lloris to be honest, as a bit of a calamity keeper. Mind you, he still was picked by France, won a World Cup and came runner up in another, so he must have been pretty decent.
Yeah, stats can be misleading in some cases. Van Der Sar even pointed out that his stats include the lengthy spell he was at Fulham, and his record is still 42.17% clean sheets. I'm guessing Schmeichel's record is lower due to the often high risk attacking football Ferguson liked to play. I was surprised that Reina was so high though, as I never really remember Liverpool being in contention to win many titles back then. It was pretty much during the Man Utd v Chelsea fight for the title, and then in his final years the Man Utd versus City fight. I guess if Liverpool's defence was really solid back then, they must have had problems in attack. Although that also feels odd, given they had Torres and then Suarez
Arthur Wedge
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Think when it comes down to the likes of Reina and Pickford it will be personal preference
Reina was outstanding for us during the Rafa years
Given was excellent - Lloris don’t think would put him amongst the best
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
I was nodding in approval until I saw you wrote Bosnich
He was so overrated, though Nigel Martyn that’s great shout for and underrated keeper.
