The Footie Thread

[Arthur Wedge]

Does that mean that Gareth Barry is
A) A Legend
B) was but not now
C) never was a Legend

Great for James Milner has been a good solid squad player for a long period.

Yes he is legend due to the amount of games he played in the Prem, the number of seasons he has played and the impact he had on the teams he played during 22 years at the top level

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Nah, his fitness must be out of this world to still be doing it in the top division and contributing to a decent side. Credit where it's due, he's had an exceptional career. He was very underrated at his peak too.

Wouldn’t surprise me if he still wins the lactose test each pre season , a machine

 

[Pin-seeker]

What a blooming good debate

 

[PaulMdj]

Give it a rest folks, google “James Milner” and you get articles by the BBC and the Premier League calling him a legend.

Anyone up there making that many appearances will split opinions.

Fantastic achievment and so what if some think that makes him a legend.

The pile ons and liking each others posts then getting personal are the reason people get sick of this thread, nobody forces anyone to reply.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Well if the good old BBC say it

 

[Hobbit]

Yes he is legend due to the amount of games he played in the Prem, the number of seasons he has played and the impact he had on the teams he played during 22 years at the top level

An outstanding player, exceptionally consistent but for me he never had that star quality. However, something that doesn’t get a lot of press is what he’s done outside the game. For me, that’s his star quality, and huge respect to him for doing so especially as he’s never trumpeted it or sought to say “hey, look at me.”

 

[Pin-seeker]

An outstanding player, exceptionally consistent but for me he never had that star quality. However, something that doesn’t get a lot of press is what he’s done outside the game. For me, that’s his star quality, and huge respect to him for doing so especially as he’s never trumpeted it or sought to say “hey, look at me.”

This comes up with many players.
They do lots of work outside of the game.
Remember hearing a few stories of the work African players do to help the communities they came from.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

An outstanding player, exceptionally consistent but for me he never had that star quality. However, something that doesn’t get a lot of press is what he’s done outside the game. For me, that’s his star quality, and huge respect to him for doing so especially as he’s never trumpeted it or sought to say “hey, look at me.”

That’s where it comes down to defining a “legend” - there is no set definitions but for me it’s not just about someone’s ability or star quality etc

Players longevity at the highest level and consistency is key as well

He won’t ever be seen along the likes of Henry , Shearer etc when it comes to that World Class ability but teams need a Barry or Milner to help win titles - and to do it over 20 years - that’s unreal - they will both be in th Prem Hall of Fame at some stage and that makes legends imo

 

[AmandaJR]

Give it a rest folks, google “James Milner” and you get articles by the BBC and the Premier League calling him a legend.

Anyone up there making that many appearances will split opinions.

Fantastic achievment and so what if some think that makes him a legend.

The pile ons and liking each others posts then getting personal are the reason people get sick of this thread, nobody forces anyone to reply.

Let's review - nobody piled on UNTIL he stated we were demeaning Milner beacuse we disagreed he was a legend. So our opinion wasn't valid and had to be proved so.

 

[Neilds]

Got what wrong exactly ?

Surely it’s just someone’s opinion if someone is a legend or not - there is no “right or wrong” ?

But how about you respecting everyone else’s opinions?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Let's review - nobody piled on UNTIL he stated we were demeaning Milner beacuse we disagreed he was a legend. So our opinion wasn't valid and had to be proved so.

I didn’t say you were demanding his achievements because you disagreed he isn’t a legend

The demeaning of his achievements was in response to looking at the minutes played as opposed to the games played - and that’s why i replied to that post

 

[Arthur Wedge]

But how about you respecting everyone else’s opinions?

When did I say anyone else was wrong

 

[Neilds]

When did I say anyone else was wrong

You may not say the exact words but you continue to argue

 

[Arthur Wedge]

You may not say the exact words but you continue to argue

Argue ?

So it’s ok for people to tell me my opinion was wrong ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025282366965494114

 

[Hobbit]

That’s where it comes down to defining a “legend” - there is no set definitions but for me it’s not just about someone’s ability or star quality etc

Players longevity at the highest level and consistency is key as well

He won’t ever be seen along the likes of Henry , Shearer etc when it comes to that World Class ability but teams need a Barry or Milner to help win titles - and to do it over 20 years - that’s unreal - they will both be in th Prem Hall of Fame at some stage and that makes legends imo

He came on in the 90th minute to break the record. He’s been a bit part player for quite a while. Without a doubt it’s worth more than a mention but he stopped being influential quite a while back.

As you said, it’s opinions. In my opinion he’s there because of outstanding fitness but he just a journeyman pro now at best.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

He came on in the 90th minute to break the record. He’s been a bit part player for quite a while. Without a doubt it’s worth more than a mention but he stopped being influential quite a while back.

As you said, it’s opinions. In my opinion he’s there because of outstanding fitness but he just a journeyman pro now at best.

He started today to break the record ?

No doubt his impact is different now to 3/4/5 years ago

 

[Hobbit]

He started today to break the record ?

No doubt his impact is different now to 3/4/5 years ago

You’re right, he was subbed at the end, obviously can’t manage a full match…

 

[Arthur Wedge]

You’re right, he was subbed at the end, obviously can’t manage a full match…

Yeah needs to sort of his fitness levels

 

[Swango1980]

Argue ?

So it’s ok for people to tell me my opinion was wrong ?

If somebody doesn't think somebody is a legend, and you do, then by definition they think you are wrong.

So yes, it is allowed. Otherwise we'd just have to agree with your claim.

Nobody was likely to have posted more than a single comment on this, had their opinion not been continually demeaned and rebutted