The Footie Thread

[SteveW86]

What a refreshing change to hear non Liverpool fans complaining about VAR

 

[HampshireHog]

What’s going on at City? It’s like they can’t be bothered to fight for it. Effective stuff when they are allowed to play but not interested in winning the battles.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

What’s going on at City? It’s like they can’t be bothered to fight for it. Effective stuff when they are allowed to play but not interested in winning the battles.

Still think it’s Pep’s last season and there will be a Klopp style announcement soon

 

[Red devil]

I'm not sure how it is VAR's fault Haaland didn't get a penalty, assuming he was dragged back before corner was played. The ball was out of play, the rules don't allow a penalty to be given. I'd blame the rules rather than VAR

If that had happened to a Utd player I'd be livid

 

[Rlburnside]

I'm not sure how it is VAR's fault Haaland didn't get a penalty, assuming he was dragged back before corner was played. The ball was out of play, the rules don't allow a penalty to be given. I'd blame the rules rather than VAR

That’s correct, some need to get to know the rules before they complain.
City should have that game sown up in the first half they won’t get an easier first half all season, Spurs were awful and it was heading for a toxic atmosphere at the end.

Good performance from Spurs in the second half, but for City to be challenging for the title they must be kicking themselves for letting Spurs off the hook.

 

[Swango1980]

If that had happened to a Utd player I'd be livid

Me to. But I guess that is why referees have to always delay play for ages, to stop players grabbing each other before ball is in play.

The only way I can see it changing is if they change the rules, so that penalties can be given for holding x seconds before corner / free kick is taken

 

[PaulMdj]

If that had happened to a Utd player I'd be livid

Exactly, without knowing who spoke first betwen Ref & VAR it’s difficult to get your head around it.

There’s lots of shirt pulling, fouls, grabs, etc during corners and a Ref csn miss something.

So if the Ref initiated the call, he may of asked, was there a foul on Haaland?
If the answer is yes, but before the corner was taken then he should, imo, order a retake.

If VAR initiated the call then what’s the point if there’s no action taken.

IMO, the corner should not be started when the ball is played but when the players start their runs to get into position.

 

[Swango1980]

That’s correct, some need to get to know the rules before they complain.
City should have that game sown up in the first half they won’t get an easier first half all season, Spurs were awful and it was heading for a toxic atmosphere at the end.

Good performance from Spurs in the second half, but for City to be challenging for the title they must be kicking themselves for letting Spurs off the hook.

The biggest villain are definitely City themselves. I've no idea what happened in 2nd half. Maybe they were in autopilot, let Spurs get momentum, and then just couldn't get back into gear once the crowd and Spurs players were lifted

 

[Arthur Wedge]

So VAR Decides that HAALAND was not fouled because it happened before the ball was kicked. Sweet mother.

Is that not the rules

 

[PaulMdj]

That’s correct, some need to get to know the rules before they complain.
City should have that game sown up in the first half they won’t get an easier first half all season, Spurs were awful and it was heading for a toxic atmosphere at the end.

Good performance from Spurs in the second half, but for City to be challenging for the title they must be kicking themselves for letting Spurs off the hook.

Don’t be silly, we are reacting to what we are being shown on a TV screen, Sky showed the goalmouth, we see Haaland being dragged to the ground as he attempts to play the ball.

2-3 minutes later the commentators gave VAR’s explanation as to why they couldn’t get involved.

Nobody has said VAR was incorrect in their ruling.

 

[Swango1980]

Exactly, without knowing who spoke first betwen Ref & VAR it’s difficult to get your head around it.

There’s lots of shirt pulling, fouls, grabs, etc during corners and a Ref csn miss something.

So if the Ref initiated the call, he may of asked, was there a foul on Haaland?
If the answer is yes, but before the corner was taken then he should, imo, order a retake.

If VAR initiated the call then what’s the point if there’s no action taken.

IMO, the corner should not be started when the ball is played but when the players start their runs to get into position.

VAR can only intervene if they think.it is a penalty that was missed. Which is what they were checking, as they always do. They can't recommend the corner to be retaken, not in their remit. And the ref can't ask corner to be retaken, as he already allowed ball to be put back into play, so can't go back before that point.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Don’t be silly, we are reacting to what we are being shown on a TV screen, Sky showed the goalmouth, we see Haaland being dragged to the ground as he attempts to play the ball.

2-3 minutes later the commentators gave VAR’s explanation as to why they couldn’t get involved.

Nobody has said VAR was incorrect in their ruling.

var can only get involved before the ball is in play if it’s for violent conduct or a possible red card offence

 

[PaulMdj]

var can only get involved before the ball is in play if it’s for violent conduct or a possible red card offence

We know! What’s that got to do with my answer?

 

[IanM]

I'm not sure how it is VAR's fault Haaland didn't get a penalty, assuming he was dragged back before corner was played. The ball was out of play, the rules don't allow a penalty to be given. I'd blame the rules rather than VAR

Rules? Do they apply to everyone?

Anyone saying "there's nae rules, they're laws" gets a 7 day ban!

 

[SteveW86]

Don’t be silly, we are reacting to what we are being shown on a TV screen, Sky showed the goalmouth, we see Haaland being dragged to the ground as he attempts to play the ball.

2-3 minutes later the commentators gave VAR’s explanation as to why they couldn’t get involved.

Nobody has said VAR was incorrect in their ruling.

Tashy did

 

[PaulMdj]

Tashy did

Were? All he said was “Sweet Mother” after giving the reason VAR ignored it.

 

[Tashyboy]

Exactly, without knowing who spoke first betwen Ref & VAR it’s difficult to get your head around it.

There’s lots of shirt pulling, fouls, grabs, etc during corners and a Ref csn miss something.

So if the Ref initiated the call, he may of asked, was there a foul on Haaland?
If the answer is yes, but before the corner was taken then he should, imo, order a retake.

If VAR initiated the call then what’s the point if there’s no action taken.

IMO, the corner should not be started when the ball is played but when the players start their runs to get into position.

Exactly this The. Order should start as soon as the ref blows his whistle. That’s when the game has started again.

 

[Swango1980]

Well, at least we ALL agree that VAR was correct with the Haaland decision.

Just a few wires crossed in the initial comments on the incident I guess

 

[PaulMdj]

Exactly this The. Order should start as soon as the ref blows his whistle. That’s when the game has started again.

Corners are a complete mess, those and shirt pulling need sorting out by the PGMOL.

 

[Tashyboy]

I can see Pep blowing a fuse re VAR this season. Against Newcastle Foden was kicked after he had a shot. VAR turned it down for a penalty. V Spurs Ghuehi is kicked before Spurs players connects with ball and VAR don’t intervene. If a defender kicks a player before the ball in the box, it’s a foul and a penalty.
Once more am proper narked because it’s another week where VAR has I influenced a result when we should be talking about a good first half from City and a good second half from Spurs.