Slime
Tour Winner
A yellow for throwing the ball at an opponent and a second yellow for sticking a knee in his back and trying to bundle him off the pitch.
To be fair, I'd have given him three yellow cards!!!
A yellow for throwing the ball at an opponent and a second yellow for sticking a knee in his back and trying to bundle him off the pitch.
To be fair, I'd have given him three yellow cards!!!
Swango1980
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Personally, I'd love to have seen him get red.
However, did he not just drop the ball on the player petulantly, and then try and force him off pitch?
We see players do that almost every week, it just turns out Bradley was actually injured, rather than time wasting
I'm just going by how the law is interpreted, not what I would have like to see happen to him. He gets red for that, then we will start seeing many reds near the end of tight games when players try and push time wasters off pitch
Arthur Wedge
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Potentially a serious knee injury for Bradley 
PaulMdj
Well-known member
Martinelli could of easily been given 2 yellow cards, but the reason he tried to push him off the pitch was that he was already half off and (I think) Macallister told Bradley to get back on to the pitch, Martinelli saw him shuffle back on and reacted.
4LEX
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People are being harsh on Martinelli here. He most likely never saw the actual impact and twisted ankle as he was watching the ball, he just assumed from other Liverpool players actions during the game he was timewasting. With it being so near the touchline he gave him a push over the line.
Easy for everyone to judge based on various camera angles and replays.
Easy for everyone to judge based on various camera angles and replays.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Tbf Martinelli has played the game long enough to know you never get away with pushing a player off the pitch.
The ref doesn't say, yeah go ahead hes off the pitch now, well done , play on.
It just doesn't happen. He let his frustrations boil over. Likely still annoyed he didn't get a penalty earlier in the game.
Its not the crime of the century. Silly and unprofessional which rightly gets the opposition backs up.
For those wanting to decry the PL based on last night's game, go back and watch the Newcastle v Leeds game. Not every match can be a classic.
Interesting listening to Slot's interview after the game. Understood why Martinelli acted as he did, thought Bradley was time wasting, and accepted his apology. All moved on calmly.
Interesting listening to Slot's interview after the game. Understood why Martinelli acted as he did, thought Bradley was time wasting, and accepted his apology. All moved on calmly.
Swango1980
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Yeah, I saw today that Martinelli had apologised to Bradley.
More importantly, big concern for N. Ireland, and their upcoming qualifier against Italy. Not often losing a right back is a big loss
An apology from a player after a game is often hollow, a bit of pr when you, or your agent, read the room and realise the mess you've made. The fact that Slot was so calm suggests that the apology was quick and genuine.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Yeah. Even a the time, before the apology, it was definitely the reaction of a player reacting to time wasting, not a serious injury.
I remember when he was doing it, but after Neville had already called it as a potential nasty injury, I was thinking Martinelli is probably going to feel mortified when it dawns on him Bradley was actually injured.
We can blame Martinelli, but it is also symptomatic of football in general. So many players time waste these days, that these heat of the moment reactions become more and more regular. And more often than not, fans are cheering on the player doing what Martinelli did, because the enemy is the time waster
For me, it was two decent teams cancelling each other out. The game needed a goal to open it up.
Arthur Wedge
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The Martenlli issue was going to happen at some stage , it was poor but he has apologised
When Wirtz got clattered by Timber - Saliba was trying to get him up , Gakpo got clattered by someone and they tried to drag them up - maybe Arsenal players need to be told to leave the players on the ground
it was a decent game , still unsure why VAR didn’t send Taylor to check that penalty when it’s the same challenge as the Newcastle game but then that’s the consistency we all don’t see
When respect to refs was talked about and we had the ref cam the other day it was highlighted how players spoke to refs - Trossard a perfect example last night - rightly given a yellow for pulling back a player and his response was a constant volley of abuse and swear words -that’s what we see every game , do that in rugby and you are gone
But Arsenal have turned into a bunch of really unlikable people stemming from their manager and set piece coach antics on the sideline and the likes of AFTV
When Wirtz got clattered by Timber - Saliba was trying to get him up , Gakpo got clattered by someone and they tried to drag them up - maybe Arsenal players need to be told to leave the players on the ground
it was a decent game , still unsure why VAR didn’t send Taylor to check that penalty when it’s the same challenge as the Newcastle game but then that’s the consistency we all don’t see
When respect to refs was talked about and we had the ref cam the other day it was highlighted how players spoke to refs - Trossard a perfect example last night - rightly given a yellow for pulling back a player and his response was a constant volley of abuse and swear words -that’s what we see every game , do that in rugby and you are gone
But Arsenal have turned into a bunch of really unlikable people stemming from their manager and set piece coach antics on the sideline and the likes of AFTV
PaulMdj
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It was Martinelli that Arteta pushed back on to the pitch in 2021 to get treatment v West Ham, Arteta was slated for cheating.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
What happened to the directive at the start of the season where the powers that be said they would be cracking down on this sort of behaviour? Gone the same way as the initiative to stop the wrestling at corners/free kicks. The referees need to start handing out cards for all these sort of offences and clubs will soon learn when they are down to 8 or 9 players.
Swango1980
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A second yellow is probably too much for most fans to take, if a player gets that for an emotional reaction. Espeically if that player is really doing it to let out some of their inner frustration, rather than trying to make a genionely robust arguement to the ref. Most fans would love players getting a second yellow for it, until it is one of their players getting sent off. At which point they'll accuse refs of over reacting, not baing able to manager emotional players and ruining games of football.
That being said, perhaps there is still things that can be done. Might have been done at grass roots, but if a player is guilty of disrespecting the referee or using fould language towards him (or another player maybe), no yellow card. 5 or 10 minutes sin bin instead. And if it is after 90 minutes and into injury time, that sin ban carries over. Thus, next time a team registers a player to start a game of come on as sub, that club have to keep them off the field for the first 5-10 minutes
That being said, perhaps there is still things that can be done. Might have been done at grass roots, but if a player is guilty of disrespecting the referee or using fould language towards him (or another player maybe), no yellow card. 5 or 10 minutes sin bin instead. And if it is after 90 minutes and into injury time, that sin ban carries over. Thus, next time a team registers a player to start a game of come on as sub, that club have to keep them off the field for the first 5-10 minutes
Arthur Wedge
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As with all directives , there is an initial burst and then it just stops
Always recall when Steve Bennett sent of Mascherano for constant dissent towards the ref - no issues but then after a couple weeks it just carried on as normal
irip
Head Pro
My take on last nights game was do teams need to go back to the old fashioned goal poacher?
Do they even exist anymore.
Give either team Ian Rush or Ian Wright and they win the game.
Have teams gone for players now who get more involved in the build up than getting tap ins?
I accept Haaland might be classed as one but in general most teams don’t seem to have one.
Or do the likes of Gary Lineker not exist anymore?
The Martinelli incident was something of nothing in my opinion, we often see players go down off the pitch and roll back on and that’s what happened last night, I thought a booking was fair enough.
Feel sorry for Bradley and hope it’s nothing too bad
Do they even exist anymore.
Give either team Ian Rush or Ian Wright and they win the game.
Have teams gone for players now who get more involved in the build up than getting tap ins?
I accept Haaland might be classed as one but in general most teams don’t seem to have one.
Or do the likes of Gary Lineker not exist anymore?
The Martinelli incident was something of nothing in my opinion, we often see players go down off the pitch and roll back on and that’s what happened last night, I thought a booking was fair enough.
Feel sorry for Bradley and hope it’s nothing too bad
Slime
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I don't get how AFTV can make Arsenal unlikeable because, surely, nobody would watch AFTV unless they were an Arsenal supporter.
Arthur Wedge
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It’s a shame we didn’t have either of the strikers fit as I think it might have been a different results
But Arsenal had their finisher on the pitch and he was nowhere near the box , the Rice ball was perfect for a decent striker to get on the end off and he wasn’t there
I said in the summer that Sesko would have been a better fit for Arsenal and he showed the other night that give him chances he will get on the end of rhem
Gyokores is showing why he wasn’t that great in the Championship
Slime
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I hope not, odious little man.
