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Anyhoo, back to MFC. Robbie Savage cleared off to FGR. Now I thought immediately it was because we did not have the readies available for another push to win the next league. Others just thought it was because he wasn't to further his career. Now the owner has said he is going to step back from running the place, no surprise to me, I thought at soon as his mate Robbie cleared off he would do this. Now he's come out and said, er actually I'm completely clearing off. Also, the first team manager has announced he's clearing off as well. Now, obviously no one will come out and say the real truth, so we can only speculate. But, I think I've been proven right. and the money has run out.Well not run out but is not available to get us out of the league we afre now it. We have been using players that should be two leagues above where we are, hence the league wins. But now, we cannot afford to do this. So everyone at the top has gone. A further announcement came from the remaining people left to run the place. Part of it saying something to the effect of :- we are going to get the finances of the club to what we can afford. Well that's how I read it.
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Who the hell watches MOTD anymore? Highlights are on on You tube fairly soon after a match, well next day anyway. And no pundits giving their views.

Me.

I watch Middlesbrough live on streaming, and MOTD because it covers all the interesting bits in the Prem matches. I don’t mind the pundits. Sometimes they discuss things I hadn’t picked up - don’t always agree with them but it’s hardly anything worth getting het up about.
 

Not like Sky to skew anyone’s comments, is it?!

What Ratcliffe actually said is that Amorim NEEDS three years to prove himself, not that he will necessarily be given that period of time.

I’m sure everyone wants to give the manager time, rather than constantly changing personnel, but if things don’t change don’t for one minute think Amorim will still be there in another two years, because he won’t.
 
Not like Sky to skew anyone’s comments, is it?!

What Ratcliffe actually said is that Amorim NEEDS three years to prove himself, not that he will necessarily be given that period of time.

I’m sure everyone wants to give the manager time, rather than constantly changing personnel, but if things don’t change don’t for one minute think Amorim will still be there in another two years, because he won’t.


A few are reporting the same thing

Either way Ratcliffes judgement since he arrived is also very questionable so far as well
 
He’s right to want to give him three years. Ratcliffe isn’t daft. What else would anyone expect him to say when asked the direct question?

But don’t for one minute interpret it as this being a guarantee Amorim will get two more years.

Must be a quiet news day, because this is a classic non-story.
 
The hype made by people when Radciffe speaks is hilarious, at sometimes pathetic. 24 hr media, social media, simply can't wait to write their headlines.

Radcliffe makes negative comments, he is battered and we are told he is lying and things are not that bad.

Radcliffe makes positive comments, he is battered for being delusional.

Radcliffe doesn't speak, he is battered for staying silent.

I completely agree with him. In principal, managers need time. Not a few months, not even a couple of seasons, they need more than that to see proper changes in their squad and performances. It's nice if there is almost immediate improvements, but even then sometimes that is just a false dawn. I completely expect bumps in the road, big ones as well given the state Utd have been in. I'm glad our owner had more patience than the media or fickle fans

Of course, he didnt say he would definitely remain in place. If Utd are down near the bottom after Xmas, if it becomes clear Amorim is lost, then I'm sure they'll look for someone else.
 
The hype made by people when Radciffe speaks is hilarious, at sometimes pathetic. 24 hr media, social media, simply can't wait to write their headlines.

Radcliffe makes negative comments, he is battered and we are told he is lying and things are not that bad.

Radcliffe makes positive comments, he is battered for being delusional.

Radcliffe doesn't speak, he is battered for staying silent.

I completely agree with him. In principal, managers need time. Not a few months, not even a couple of seasons, they need more than that to see proper changes in their squad and performances. It's nice if there is almost immediate improvements, but even then sometimes that is just a false dawn. I completely expect bumps in the road, big ones as well given the state Utd have been in. I'm glad our owner had more patience than the media or fickle fans

Of course, he didnt say he would definitely remain in place. If Utd are down near the bottom after Xmas, if it becomes clear Amorim is lost, then I'm sure they'll look for someone else.
I’m sure it will be ok after all Gareth is a very patient man😉
 
Not like Sky to skew anyone’s comments, is it?!

And just to underline my point, one of the presenters on SSN has literally just said to Charlie Austin that Jim Ratcliffe has confirmed “Ruben Amorim won’t be getting sacked, no matter what.”

What utter drivel. That is not what has been said at all.
 
And just to underline my point, one of the presenters on SSN has literally just said to Charlie Austin that Jim Ratcliffe has confirmed “Ruben Amorim won’t be getting sacked, no matter what.”

What utter drivel. That is not what has been said at all.

I often think it’s the media that create the drama that leads to a premature sacking. A manager has a bad run and the media ‘attack’ the manager. A player might, just might get called out for an abysmal display but it’s always the manager’s fault for picking, obviously knowing that the player was going to have a mare…
 
And just to underline my point, one of the presenters on SSN has literally just said to Charlie Austin that Jim Ratcliffe has confirmed “Ruben Amorim won’t be getting sacked, no matter what.”

What utter drivel. That is not what has been said at all.
Its constant. Everyone adding 2+2 to get answers of 5, 6, 7, 8....56347, 56348, etc. Not sure many have answered 4.

It also gives many of them to bring up staff redundancies and scrapping free lunches again. As if no business in the world streamlines when they are going through difficult periods.

They then compare that to the salaries players get. Well, here is a thought. Things like free lunches, to me, is a perk, not a right. Would it not be a far better idea that the players group together, and set up a scheme where they donmate a fraction of their salary to provide perks for the Manchester Utd staff? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure many of the players do a lot of good things for charities. However, even if they donated 0.5% of their salary to schemes to support the rest of the staff, that would be £15,000 a week, and nearly £800,000 a year.
 
Does what Ratcliffe said about Amorin count as a vote of confidence? If it does, then we all know Man Utd will be looking for a new manager as we speak and once they have identified someone to take over, Amorin will be gone in a matter of days.
 
I often think it’s the media that create the drama that leads to a premature sacking. A manager has a bad run and the media ‘attack’ the manager. A player might, just might get called out for an abysmal display but it’s always the manager’s fault for picking, obviously knowing that the player was going to have a mare…

Media exposure on the sport is huge , has been for a while now and the biggest teams get the most amount id exposure - there is a lot of positives with that exposure as well of course the downsides

Some of the jobs within the sport will be high pressure and massive demands come with that - the media will keep up that pressure if something isn’t going well but I don’t expect any owner to react and sack someone based on tbe media - it should be based on the results on the pitch.

Man Utd spent 20 plus years at the top challenging every year for the title and CL - that’s where the club is expected to be , if it isn’t then the spotlight will be on the manager and owner , clubs and fans will have paitence to a certain extent but it’s a lot shorter these days.

Clubs like Man Utd can afford to spend too long bouncing around mid table , it will take even longer for them to be back at the top table again

But fans can’t really complain about negativity within the media about the club when it’s poorly run at the moment, for 20 plus years the media spent all that time glorifying them and the fans rode that wave
 
I often think it’s the media that create the drama that leads to a premature sacking. A manager has a bad run and the media ‘attack’ the manager. A player might, just might get called out for an abysmal display but it’s always the manager’s fault for picking, obviously knowing that the player was going to have a mare…
it’s not just the press media, but SM and those who can’t help themselves but have to repost the slightest thing to grab attention, and yes it happens here, and too bad if those do it don’t like the comments.
Me personally, I love to see Utd suffer but I’m not interested in the smallest comment and those who feel the need to repost the smallest useless comment about them, as I hate it done to the club I support.
 
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Is Memphis Depay one if the forgotten men in Man Utd's history? Is he underrated, given what he has done since? When we look back at failed signings that are indicative of Man Utd's poor recruitement, players like Pogba, Di Maria and Sanchez are well remembered. Depay seems to be rarely mentioned.

Depay's time at Man Utd seems to fall into the depths of the shadows. Came to the club a decade ago, and in 2 seasons scored 2 goals in 33 appearances. I've not followed his career since, but he has had spells at Lyon, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, and seems to have done very well, at least for lengthy spells. And he is on the verge of becoming the Netherlands all time top goalscorer, at the age of 31.
 
Is Memphis Depay one if the forgotten men in Man Utd's history? Is he underrated, given what he has done since? When we look back at failed signings that are indicative of Man Utd's poor recruitement, players like Pogba, Di Maria and Sanchez are well remembered. Depay seems to be rarely mentioned.

Depay's time at Man Utd seems to fall into the depths of the shadows. Came to the club a decade ago, and in 2 seasons scored 2 goals in 33 appearances. I've not followed his career since, but he has had spells at Lyon, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, and seems to have done very well, at least for lengthy spells. And he is on the verge of becoming the Netherlands all time top goalscorer, at the age of 31.
He got it a couple of month back.
I was shocked given some of the players they’ve had over the years.

But tbf all the international records seem to be getting beat.
 
Its constant. Everyone adding 2+2 to get answers of 5, 6, 7, 8....56347, 56348, etc. Not sure many have answered 4.

It also gives many of them to bring up staff redundancies and scrapping free lunches again. As if no business in the world streamlines when they are going through difficult periods.

They then compare that to the salaries players get. Well, here is a thought. Things like free lunches, to me, is a perk, not a right. Would it not be a far better idea that the players group together, and set up a scheme where they donmate a fraction of their salary to provide perks for the Manchester Utd staff? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure many of the players do a lot of good things for charities. However, even if they donated 0.5% of their salary to schemes to support the rest of the staff, that would be £15,000 a week, and nearly £800,000 a year.
But how many jobs give free meals?
Why should working for a football club mean you get free food?
 
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