The Footie Thread

[Bunkermagnet]

Can we try and stay vaguely on topic please?

Its about footy. You know some just can't help themselves

 

[nickjdavis]

...anyway...the Football Focus (geddit?) now shifts to the Cathedral on the Hill.

Haven't got a clue what to really expect from tonight's match...not sure where our goals are coming from and thoroughly expect Liverpool to rub our noses in it, before making off with our Crown Jewel by Wednesday.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

...anyway...the Football Focus (geddit?) now shifts to the Cathedral on the Hill.

Haven't got a clue what to really expect from tonight's match...not sure where our goals are coming from and thoroughly expect Liverpool to rub our noses in it, before making off with our Crown Jewel by Wednesday.

Can see it being a cagey 1-1 tbh

See that Newcastle are looking at Strand Larsen now

 

[hairball_89]

...anyway...the Football Focus (geddit?) now shifts to the Cathedral on the Hill.

Haven't got a clue what to really expect from tonight's match...not sure where our goals are coming from and thoroughly expect Liverpool to rub our noses in it, before making off with our Crown Jewel by Wednesday.

Completely ignoring the bit about player exits…

What’s your feeling (and general fan consensus) on the absolute inability to bring in a striker? Seems madness that apparently *every* player gone for so far has said no?

Elanga and Rogers (has he come in yet?) are good signings but it doesn’t seem all rosey?

 

[Don Barzini]

...anyway...the Football Focus (geddit?) now shifts to the Cathedral on the Hill.

Loved that Ed Sheeran song

 

[Lord Tyrion]

@Bazz Newcastle have supposedly bid for Strand Larsen. What do you think of him?

Will you hold on to him, would you rather take the money and buy someone else?

 

[Swango1980]

Spoke to my mate today, who was at the Everton game this weekend. He actually managed to get a season ticket.

He said the stadium was outstanding. I know he may be biased, but you could tell from his reaction that he is genuinely blown away by what it is like being in the new stadium.

Only issue, he says, is that it could take hours leaving the ground. Think he managed to find a Morrisons car park 15 minutes away, that opened up their car park for £15, that wasn't too bad

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

@Bazz Newcastle have supposedly bid for Strand Larsen. What do you think of him?

Will you hold on to him, would you rather take the money and buy someone else?

£50 million bid apparently turned down. Seems decent but limited time in the premier league, maybe better service at Newcastle would seem him deliver more goals. But almost seems desperate now from Newcastle and everyone is turning them down. Quite worrying as it gets closer to deadline day, hopefully get someone in soon as be good to see them up near the top again.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Anyone like a bet on what minute the Newcastle fans hurt the Liverpool fan’s feelings by a chant?
I’ll go 18
Can’t see it being a friendly encounter with all the Isak business

 

[Slime]

Was it this summer the Saudi bid ?

Did the club turn it down or did Fernandes turn the move down ?

Think a midfield of Mainoo plus a Rodri will be better but with Amorin playing 3 at the back where does a 10 fit in ?

Not the early summer bid, apparently they're thinking of making a fresh bid.
Bruno turned the original one down, as he wanted to stay at United, but did say that if Utd needed to sell him, he'd go.

 

[Slime]

You have clearly seen a lot more of Mainoo than I have but based upon what I have seen I think it would be a massive mistake for him to replace Fernandes at this time.

He strikes me as very limited and without the ability of Fernandes. The media reaction to him when he first came through seemed to be compensation for Man U missing out on Jude Bellingham.

The issue I see is that Bruno is being played out of position. He's a 10 playing as an 8 and it's just not working.
I think Mainoo would be a better No.8, especially long term.
We are currently desperate for a decent No.6, the possible sale of Bruno could be very useful in that regard, although I'm not sure there's enough time left in this window.
Hey, just my musings on the current situation.

 

[nickjdavis]

Completely ignoring the bit about player exits…

What’s your feeling (and general fan consensus) on the absolute inability to bring in a striker? Seems madness that apparently *every* player gone for so far has said no?

Elanga and Rogers (has he come in yet?) are good signings but it doesn’t seem all rosey?

I think we have perhaps tried shopping at Harrods whereas perhaps we should have been looking at Waitrose...plus you get the effect of another team seeing you are interested in a striker, and they develop a bit of FOMO and go and offer loads of money for someone they didn't know they wanted or know how they are going to use. Also...I can imagine that players wives/girlfriends also have a pre conceived idea about places and its hardly surprising that London/Manchester might be more appealing to those who have no experience of Newcastle or just look where it is on a map. Plus the general incompetence in getting deals over the line, due to gaping holes in our management infrastructure, hasn't helped.

Sadly, long gone are the days when we beat Middlesbrough to the signing of Robert Lee, because Keegan convinced him that Newcastle was closer to London!!!

Overall though... if we get two strikers in (say a Marks and Sparks Wissa/Strand Larsen and another of Waitrose quality) and Isak goes, I think the window will have been pretty successful as we would have strengthened the depth of the squad in a lot of areas that needed addressing...

Ramsdale
Thiaw
Rogers
Elanga
Seung-Soo Park (think the intention was to get him out on loan but he has impressed a lot in pre season so might remain with the first team squad)

Like I say...the next week will be more than frenetic, transfer deadline day might actually be interesting for a change...not just at Newcastle...though in an ideal world my own preference would be for deadline day to be before the season actually starts.

 

[Bazz]

@Bazz Newcastle have supposedly bid for Strand Larsen. What do you think of him?

Will you hold on to him, would you rather take the money and buy someone else?

It's too late, and our owners are so unbelievably bad at closing deals that we'll not replace him properly and 100% will be relegated, it's already going to be tough with him.

£50 million bid apparently turned down. Seems decent but limited time in the premier league, maybe better service at Newcastle would seem him deliver more goals. But almost seems desperate now from Newcastle and everyone is turning them down. Quite worrying as it gets closer to deadline day, hopefully get someone in soon as be good to see them up near the top again.

18 g/a last season, I'd argue it's probably a bit light, we were bloody awful for most of last season and he still did well.
We'll try to hold Newcastle to ransom because they're desperate, and then become the desperate ones ourselves.

Our owners haven't even replaced the players that have actually left, can't see them doing anything different if JSL goes.

 

[nickjdavis]

Can see it being a cagey 1-1 tbh

See that Newcastle are looking at Strand Larsen now

I'd take Hojlund from Man U and Sorloth from Athletico...albeit the latter is at the higher end of the age scale we would be interested in, but for £30m could do a job based on his Spanish scoring record.

 

[4LEX]

I must admit, I've never had an impression either way about what a stadium's wow factor is by just watching a game on TV. You rarely see it, apart from a bit of the far end (from the camera).

I've two Everton mates in Lincoln, and they both happened to be at the game yesterday. Playing golf with one today, so I'll see if I can remember to ask him what he thought. The other stuck photos and a video on Facebook, and it looked pretty impressive to me.

In my defence I say that as a proper match going fan that's on target to join the 92 Club this season or next. I'm critical of my own teams ground too so it's nothing personal.

Speaking of Lincoln I ticked off Sincil Bank a few weeks back. Very weird ground but a decent home 'side stand' and the best away toilets I've ever had the pleasure to visit

 

[4LEX]

Which stadium in this country does wow you from the inside? I suspect any of your answers could be pulled apart. It's probably a personal thing.

The steep home end is deliberate, back to the German aspect, as it traps the noise. It's an acoustic design. That's more important than it looking pretty

I was basing it on new grounds. Spurs for me is the best and has everything including that wow factor. Don't get me wrong it's still looks a great stadium, just for the hype I was underwhelmed. I get the idea about the steep home end as I've been to Dortmund and stood on what it was based on.

Do you not think it's too small too? West Ham and Spurs have 60,000 grounds and for me Everton are just as big. Did you try and go for bigger but planning turned it down?

 

[4LEX]

Like any new stadium, it’ll take some getting used to. The only thing I don’t like about it is seeing “Hill Dickinson” plastered on it. Other than that I like it. I think the location, on the waterfront where nothing can be built around it, is great. Typically of modern designs it has scope for adding extra to it relatively easily.

I’m not quite sure what more can be expected of it, unless you want enchanted castle turrets at the corners.

The location is stunning and I think it will look even better at night. Reminds me of the new ground Portsmouth tried to build 10-15 years ago.

 

[nickjdavis]

Anyone like a bet on what minute the Newcastle fans hurt the Liverpool fan’s feelings by a chant?
I’ll go 18
Can’t see it being a friendly encounter with all the Isak business

I just hope the home support spends its time supporting the 11 players on the park, not slagging off the 1 player who has been told to stay away.

 

[4LEX]

United really showed what most fans knew. You can spend a fortune on a front three but what’s behind them is nowhere near good enough. They create very little after fast starts and defensively they switch off, time and again. Either giving the ball away or not tracking runners - just watch Bruno let Smith-Rowe have a free run for the Fulham goal.

We are beyond desperate for a box to box midfielder.

Do you not think it's pretty much the same as last season except you've replaced dross with two very good players in Cunha and Mbeumo? Even then while looking dangerous in parts you've managed 1 goal in 2 games and that was an own goal.

For me the problem is still the manager and his set up.

 

[clubchamp98]

Your opinion is very valid, and comes with local knowledge.

Middlesbrough moved from the old Ayresome Park in ‘95. Access to the ‘new’ is way better, even with it being next to the Tees, and the facilities are light years ahead but I don’t like it. I don’t like that it’s virtually out of town. Distance from the town centre, it might even be closer but it doesn’t feel like it’s in Middlesbrough. Heaven forbid they actually sort out a new railway station right next to the ground… the railway runs across one end and the river the other. A small pedestrian underpass - don’t ask…

I suppose the question to ask is which grounds have got it right and why can’t that be copied.

I remember the club was thinking of moving to the end of the M57/58 at the main junction.
There’s acres of space there .
But they asked the fans and they said “ no” as it was out of the city limit.

It’s about 25/30 minutes walk to Lime st station but it puts the away fans walking right through the city centre.
We all seen this so don’t know why the planning dept couldn’t .
But it’s there now and it’s fantastic ,I hope Everton get back to the top table like my dad remembered.

He took me the match every week Everton one Sat Liverpool the next ,he just loved the game!