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Just watched the highlights of the west ham v Chelsea game. The hammers have to be favourites to be relegated, they are awful. Literally can’t see anything in that team that warrants anything other than a relegation battle.

Signings are poor, defensively weak and huge over reliance on Bowen. Potter has never convinced me he’s a top manager and he’s proving it!
 
The Premier league is now flooded with wealth, every team has significant financial power.

Slowly the poorly run teams have dropped and been replaced with well run outfits. The smaller teams compete by having better business models.

The shared characteristic is generally pace and power - the premier league runs on dynamism.

There is no margin for error. The only dysfunctional teams left are us and Man U and they have the scale to spend their way out of trouble.

It’s a big last few days of the transfer window and we might get enough to improve but without overhaul top to bottom we’ll drop eventually.
 
The Premier league is now flooded with wealth, every team has significant financial power.

Slowly the poorly run teams have dropped and been replaced with well run outfits. The smaller teams compete by having better business models.

The shared characteristic is generally pace and power - the premier league runs on dynamism.

There is no margin for error. The only dysfunctional teams left are us and Man U and they have the scale to spend their way out of trouble.

It’s a big last few days of the transfer window and we might get enough to improve but without overhaul top to bottom we’ll drop eventually.
Working on the assumption from your post your a Hammer. I think the Ownership at West Ham is now being found out with their poor recruitment model and way in general they run the club which is like you say seeing them drop and I think it’ll be out of the league this year.

I’d argue teams like West Ham, Everton etc should look at the likes of Brighton and how they’ve been such a success over the years and have found some real stability in the division. Their recruitment of players and managers is exceptional, I’m certainly jealous!
 
I’d argue teams like West Ham, Everton etc should look at the likes of Brighton and how they’ve been such a success over the years and have found some real stability in the division. Their recruitment of players and managers is exceptional, I’m certainly jealous!
Can't speak for the toffees, but if the rot starts at the top, they don't have the insight or interest in identifying themselves as the problem, and definitely have no inclination to let someone better come in and do the job instead.
One of the best things about the pyramid structure in UK football is that, over time, well run clubs with a good model thrive and rubbish clubs fail and then (hopefully) renew. Creative destruction and all that.
Not much comfort for those of us following badly run clubs, but I think it's better than the ridiculous US model. Which of course they'd love to bring in here, because rich owners hate being punished for being carp (though obviously, that's fine for the rest of us).
 
Working on the assumption from your post your a Hammer. I think the Ownership at West Ham is now being found out with their poor recruitment model and way in general they run the club which is like you say seeing them drop and I think it’ll be out of the league this year.

I’d argue teams like West Ham, Everton etc should look at the likes of Brighton and how they’ve been such a success over the years and have found some real stability in the division. Their recruitment of players and managers is exceptional, I’m certainly jealous!
Sadly been attending for 48 years! 🫣

Unfortunately all our problems have to be laid at the feet of the board, which is really just David Sullivan. Poor managerial appointments, unable to sign/ attract decent players, the selling of the training grounds to relocate to some portacabins in Dagenham, selling the only real asset we had in Upton Park to move us to a rented athletics stadium with false promises of it allowing us to become a “bigger club” (when all it really did was line there pockets)
All they have done is take money out of the club, other owners give there teams interest free loans, not sully, he’s been creaming 7% a year. When they took over we were a bigger club than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford etc but now using any metric you want they are more successful than West Ham.
 
Give Spurs the credit here.
They outplayed City and their work rate was fantastic all of them.
Franke has changed them for the good.

Sarr was awesome.
Totally agree.
Spurs were a great example of a team playing for each other and their manager.

One thing I did find surprising was the atmosphere even before the first goal was very flat and the fans were moaning and booing during the game, not what you expect first home game (unless your West Ham).
 
One thing I did find surprising was the atmosphere even before the first goal was very flat and the fans were moaning and booing during the game, not what you expect first home game (unless your West Ham).

City fans are not exactly renowned for supporting their team through thick or thin, though, are they?

That’s not a dig. It’s an observation. It must be a rarity in most leagues to see so many empty seats at grounds where the host club has had such enormous recent success. City can’t fill the ground for Champion’s League games and even big games towards the end of a season when the title is up for grabs.

It’s just how it is. If they had two or three barren seasons their support would drop off a cliff.
 
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