The Footie Thread

[Bunkermagnet]

It was on his personal social media account, was it not?

I don’t know, I don’t pay attention to his or most peoples social media. I have a life
I have just seen it on here

 

[Swango1980]

It's a shame. When him and Rashford were left out earlier on in the season he looked as though he'd buckled down whilst Rashford threw a hissy fit. Garnacho then got back in the side and seemed to show as though he had a half decent attitude. Seems like I was wrong and he's exactly the sort of player (attitude) wise that Amorim wants out of the club.



Of all those we're trying to shift I think he could be the easiest although I'm hopeful we don't end up selling to a rival (Chelsea/Arsenal apparently keen)....

I know you shouldn't judge by appearances, but we all do it to some extent.

I get concerned when a footballer, especially a young footballer who hasn't developed to their potential, gets the bleached blonde hair, wears lots of expensive jewellery, lots of activity on social media etc. I just get the impression that players like that think they have made it, want lots of praise and attention, have "yes men" around them, and feel entitled to love and support no matter what.

Garnacho just doesn't seem the type of person who can face adversity, work even harder and come back even stronger. Like Rashford (and Sancho), he seems the type that thinks he is a superstar, and anybody that challenges him is simply wrong to do so.

 

[Swango1980]

I don’t know, I don’t pay attention to his or most peoples social media. I have a life
I have just seen it on here

Nor me (not on X or instagram). But that is how it was reported (after I checked when I saw it on Sky Football App).

Goldbridge was quite funny, as he found out live on one of his shows (he has always been suppportive of Garnacho). Somebody commented what Garnacho had done, he had a quick look, couldn't find it and thought he was being "bantered". People kept saying it, so he checked again. He then found the post, and his mood rapidly turned to fury.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I know you shouldn't judge by appearances, but we all do it to some extent.

I get concerned when a footballer, especially a young footballer who hasn't developed to their potential, gets the bleached blonde hair, wears lots of expensive jewellery, lots of activity on social media etc. I just get the impression that players like that think they have made it, want lots of praise and attention, have "yes men" around them, and feel entitled to love and support no matter what.

Garnacho just doesn't seem the type of person who can face adversity, work even harder and come back even stronger. Like Rashford (and Sancho), he seems the type that thinks he is a superstar, and anybody that challenges him is simply wrong to do so.

Before he made it... Bleach highlights.. coloured boots .. etc

It's just life

Has no effect on their work rate

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I know you shouldn't judge by appearances, but we all do it to some extent.

get concerned when a footballer, especially a young footballer who hasn't developed to their potential, gets the bleached blonde hair, wears lots of expensive jewellery, lots of activity on social media etc. I just get the impression that players like that think they have made it, want lots of praise and attention, have "yes men" around them, and feel entitled to love and support no matter what.

Garnacho just doesn't seem the type of person who can face adversity, work even harder and come back even stronger. Like Rashford (and Sancho), he seems the type that thinks he is a superstar, and anybody that challenges him is simply wrong to do so.

The same sort of behaviour that Ronaldo had before he made when he first arrived at Man Utd

What someone does to their hair or what jewels they have shouldn’t have any bearing on them on the pitch

It might just be his personality

A lot of players have that arrogance streak in them


He has played 108 games in the last two seasons at the club - sometimes clubs have to swallow a little bit of arrogance from a player to get the best out of them

 

[Deleted member 21784]

The same sort of behaviour that Ronaldo had before he made when he first arrived at Man Utd

What someone does to their hair or what jewels they have shouldn’t have any bearing on them on the pitch

It might just be his personality

A lot of players have that arrogance streak in them


He has played 108 games in the last two seasons at the club - sometimes clubs have to swallow a little bit of arrogance from a player to get the best out of them

With it Ronaldo wouldn't be what he is.

 

[Swango1980]

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Before he made it... Bleach highlights.. coloured boots .. etc

It's just life

Has no effect on their work rate

I was very careful when I tried to explain myself. I never said that anything was a dead cert, and those characteristics automatically meant you had a player with a bad attitude. As I said, I'm cautious when a player has those characteristics.

Pointing out the odd exception, like Ronaldo or Beckham, doesn't change my view.

 

[Swango1980]

The same sort of behaviour that Ronaldo had before he made when he first arrived at Man Utd

What someone does to their hair or what jewels they have shouldn’t have any bearing on them on the pitch

It might just be his personality

A lot of players have that arrogance streak in them


He has played 108 games in the last two seasons at the club - sometimes clubs have to swallow a little bit of arrogance from a player to get the best out of them

Indeed.

And, sometimes clubs do not need to swallow over arrogance of a player.

Bizarrely, I now realise that if I were to be critical of every single Man Utd player on an individual basis, you'd counter the post by telling me I am wrong. You'd be telling me they are a very good player and the club just need to put up with them. Before long, I could have you praising every single Man Utd player

I can accept an ego if the player is clearly driven from a professional point of view. But, I don't just blindly accept any highly egotistical player. We've had a few that seemed to have big ego's but lacked the drive professionally. Sancho, Rashford, Pogba, Lingard, etc. Garnacho very much feels like he is in the same bracket.

I'm not happy about that btw. I'd love him to be a fantastic prospect, looking like he is highly driven and a majorly good player for Man Utd over the next decade.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I was very careful when I tried to explain myself. I never said that anything was a dead cert, and those characteristics automatically meant you had a player with a bad attitude. As I said, I'm cautious when a player has those characteristics.

Pointing out the odd exception, like Ronaldo or Beckham, doesn't change my view.

 

[4LEX]

Garnacho has a lot of ability but has some major problems.

1. He's missing that burst of pace really elite forwards have

2. His finishing isn't good enough

3. Due to the above he doesn't really have a specific position that suits him

He's clearly got an ego and acts as if he's too good for Utd, I think it would be good for both parties to sell.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Indeed.

And, sometimes clubs do not need to swallow over arrogance of a player.

Bizarrely, I now realise that if I were to be critical of every single Man Utd player on an individual basis, you'd counter the post by telling me I am wrong. You'd be telling me they are a very good player and the club just need to put up with them. Before long, I could have you praising every single Man Utd player

I can accept an ego if the player is clearly driven from a professional point of view. But, I don't just blindly accept any highly egotistical player. We've had a few that seemed to have big ego's but lacked the drive professionally. Sancho, Rashford, Pogba, Lingard, etc. Garnacho very much feels like he is in the same bracket.

I'm not happy about that btw. I'd love him to be a fantastic prospect, looking like he is highly driven and a majorly good player for Man Utd over the next decade.

Apologies think you may have confused my post with praise for the player

Have said before that I think he is an example of the drop in standards at the club over the years when he was being lauded after scoring the odd good goal and an over head kick

He looked in the fleeting moments to be a decent player who could develop into a very good player in the right environment

My post was generic in terms more about judging a player based on hairstyles and jewellery etc

Not sure on his ego but it seems it’s only reached a head recently - or has it been bumbling around for ages

Is the player acting up to get a move or is that how he has always been

Does he think he needs to be playing at a higher level in the CL or is he a player that doesn’t suit Amorins style

But he is only 20 and plenty of time for him but suspect he is a saleable asset

 

[Swango1980]

Apologies think you may have confused my post with praise for the player

Have said before that I think he is an example of the drop in standards at the club over the years when he was being lauded after scoring the odd good goal and an over head kick

He looked in the fleeting moments to be a decent player who could develop into a very good player in the right environment

My post was generic in terms more about judging a player based on hairstyles and jewellery etc

Not sure on his ego but it seems it’s only reached a head recently - or has it been bumbling around for ages

Is the player acting up to get a move or is that how he has always been

Does he think he needs to be playing at a higher level in the CL or is he a player that doesn’t suit Amorins style

But he is only 20 and plenty of time for him but suspect he is a saleable asset

Possibly ever since he scored that overhead kick against Everton (think it was voted best goal in the world that year?)

Ronaldo is his hero, no secret there. But it seems he has gone straight to trying to live the Ronaldo legend lifestyle, before putting in the many years work to become his own legend. That photo of him, Hojlund and Mainoo on the billboard, celebrating a goal, and being the image of "the future of Man Utd" has probably also inflated his ego.

He does have talent, but I think it will be severely limited. I agree what 4LEX has said. He is very much like Rashford, but slower, weaker and not as good at shooting. But he can still run into blind alleys like Rashford, and has equally poor vision for his team mates when he has the ball.

 

[road2ruin]

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Before he made it... Bleach highlights.. coloured boots .. etc

It's just life

Has no effect on their work rate

I think the big difference here is who they had around them, Ronaldo had Mendes who was very experienced and probably helped guide him especially when younger. Ronaldo also had his mum heavily involved plus Fergie was the manager. For Garnacho he's got two agents who seem to have left him to his own devices instead of being a steadying hand and his brother is one of the biggest tits of them all and runs his social media account. I fear that Garnacho might end up being a far more average player than he could have been with the guidance he is getting or not as the case appears to be.

 

[Swango1980]

I think the big difference here is who they had around them, Ronaldo had Mendes who was very experienced and probably helped guide him especially when younger. Ronaldo also had his mum heavily involved plus Fergie was the manager. For Garnacho he's got two agents who seem to have left him to his own devices instead of being a steadying hand and his brother is one of the biggest tits of them all and runs his social media account. I fear that Garnacho might end up being a far more average player than he could have been with the guidance he is getting or not as the case appears to be.

Know nothing about his brother, but Wiki says he is younger than Alejandro Garnacho!? That would explain a lot. Multi millionaire footballer lets his kid brother run his social media.

 

[road2ruin]

Know nothing about his brother, but Wiki says he is younger than Alejandro Garnacho!? That would explain a lot. Multi millionaire footballer lets his kid brother run his social media.

This is the MEN's take on the pair....

Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho have become content-creation collaborators in the Manchester United departures' lounge. United still pay their wages but they brazenly undermined their employers with a choreographed stunt on Sunday.

If you did not see Garnacho's Instagram post, he donned an Aston Villa shirt bearing 'Rashford 9', as if Rashford is some cult figure at Villa Park. Rashford tallied four goals in 17 games as Villa slid down the Premier League table, bottled it at Old Trafford to miss out on Champions League qualification and were walloped by Crystal Palace in the FA Cup semi-final.

Rashford was injured for that humbling at Wembley but was present at the boxing at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium later that evening. We are long past the point where Rashford cared about the optics of his social life. He attended a birthday party on Deansgate hours after he was cheered off in a 3-0 Manchester derby defeat at Old Trafford.

Any notion that Garnacho's post was not choreographed beggars belief. You can tell when he is uploading onto his Instagram page (his passive-aggressive pre-Europa League final story and return from the post-season tour).

The other giveaway is Rashford's use of the word "brother" in the comments. It is the most hollow and meaningless noun in football. Rashford and Garnacho have only ever socialised during team-bonding dinners.

Garnacho and Rashford rarely linked up on the pitch, never mind off it. Garnacho pinched Rashford's place on the left wing. One of Rashford's inner circle dubbed him a "f*****g Ronaldo wannabe". Now they are "brothers".

In all probability, neither player literally posted or commented. Rashford's brother, Dwaine Maynard, accidentally sent a tweet intended for Rashford's Twitter account from the DN May Sports agency he runs in September 2021. Having interviewed Rashford, a thoughtful talker, his often banal captions never sound like something he would ever say.

Maynard was summoned to United's Carrington training complex after Rashford's Belfast bender in January 2024. They know their race is run at United but it is still unedifying to see a player who joined the club's academy 20 years ago publicly stoop to such a petty low.

Garnacho's own advisers, Carlos Cambeiro and Enrique de Lucas, have succeeded and failed with the Argentine. They have a client whose value was listed in excess of £100m last year but literally leave Garnacho to his own (smartphone) devices.

Cambeiro and De Lucas literally leave Garnacho to his own (smartphone) devices

He is a loose cannon, regularly sounding off on social media, and failing to gag his lippy brother. Cambeiro and De Lucas are part of the problem. They let the world know they were at Stamford Bridge in January, when Chelsea were giving serious consideration to bidding for Garnacho.

Garnacho turns 21 next week yet acts like the finished article. He is finished at United and, in his desperation, has found an ally in Rashford.

 

[Billysboots]

This is the MEN's take on the pair....

Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho have become content-creation collaborators in the Manchester United departures' lounge. United still pay their wages but they brazenly undermined their employers with a choreographed stunt on Sunday.

If you did not see Garnacho's Instagram post, he donned an Aston Villa shirt bearing 'Rashford 9', as if Rashford is some cult figure at Villa Park. Rashford tallied four goals in 17 games as Villa slid down the Premier League table, bottled it at Old Trafford to miss out on Champions League qualification and were walloped by Crystal Palace in the FA Cup semi-final.

Rashford was injured for that humbling at Wembley but was present at the boxing at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium later that evening. We are long past the point where Rashford cared about the optics of his social life. He attended a birthday party on Deansgate hours after he was cheered off in a 3-0 Manchester derby defeat at Old Trafford.

Any notion that Garnacho's post was not choreographed beggars belief. You can tell when he is uploading onto his Instagram page (his passive-aggressive pre-Europa League final story and return from the post-season tour).

The other giveaway is Rashford's use of the word "brother" in the comments. It is the most hollow and meaningless noun in football. Rashford and Garnacho have only ever socialised during team-bonding dinners.

Garnacho and Rashford rarely linked up on the pitch, never mind off it. Garnacho pinched Rashford's place on the left wing. One of Rashford's inner circle dubbed him a "f*****g Ronaldo wannabe". Now they are "brothers".

In all probability, neither player literally posted or commented. Rashford's brother, Dwaine Maynard, accidentally sent a tweet intended for Rashford's Twitter account from the DN May Sports agency he runs in September 2021. Having interviewed Rashford, a thoughtful talker, his often banal captions never sound like something he would ever say.

Maynard was summoned to United's Carrington training complex after Rashford's Belfast bender in January 2024. They know their race is run at United but it is still unedifying to see a player who joined the club's academy 20 years ago publicly stoop to such a petty low.

Garnacho's own advisers, Carlos Cambeiro and Enrique de Lucas, have succeeded and failed with the Argentine. They have a client whose value was listed in excess of £100m last year but literally leave Garnacho to his own (smartphone) devices.

Cambeiro and De Lucas literally leave Garnacho to his own (smartphone) devices

He is a loose cannon, regularly sounding off on social media, and failing to gag his lippy brother. Cambeiro and De Lucas are part of the problem. They let the world know they were at Stamford Bridge in January, when Chelsea were giving serious consideration to bidding for Garnacho.

Garnacho turns 21 next week yet acts like the finished article. He is finished at United and, in his desperation, has found an ally in Rashford.

Sums it up perfectly. Especially the very last sentence.

 

[Swango1980]

Sums it up perfectly. Especially the very last sentence.

haha. I was about to reply the exact same thing. The last line is the perfect summary.

 

[Tashyboy]

This is the MEN's take on the pair....

Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho have become content-creation collaborators in the Manchester United departures' lounge. United still pay their wages but they brazenly undermined their employers with a choreographed stunt on Sunday.

If you did not see Garnacho's Instagram post, he donned an Aston Villa shirt bearing 'Rashford 9', as if Rashford is some cult figure at Villa Park. Rashford tallied four goals in 17 games as Villa slid down the Premier League table, bottled it at Old Trafford to miss out on Champions League qualification and were walloped by Crystal Palace in the FA Cup semi-final.

Rashford was injured for that humbling at Wembley but was present at the boxing at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium later that evening. We are long past the point where Rashford cared about the optics of his social life. He attended a birthday party on Deansgate hours after he was cheered off in a 3-0 Manchester derby defeat at Old Trafford.

Any notion that Garnacho's post was not choreographed beggars belief. You can tell when he is uploading onto his Instagram page (his passive-aggressive pre-Europa League final story and return from the post-season tour).

The other giveaway is Rashford's use of the word "brother" in the comments. It is the most hollow and meaningless noun in football. Rashford and Garnacho have only ever socialised during team-bonding dinners.

Garnacho and Rashford rarely linked up on the pitch, never mind off it. Garnacho pinched Rashford's place on the left wing. One of Rashford's inner circle dubbed him a "f*****g Ronaldo wannabe". Now they are "brothers".

In all probability, neither player literally posted or commented. Rashford's brother, Dwaine Maynard, accidentally sent a tweet intended for Rashford's Twitter account from the DN May Sports agency he runs in September 2021. Having interviewed Rashford, a thoughtful talker, his often banal captions never sound like something he would ever say.

Maynard was summoned to United's Carrington training complex after Rashford's Belfast bender in January 2024. They know their race is run at United but it is still unedifying to see a player who joined the club's academy 20 years ago publicly stoop to such a petty low.

Garnacho's own advisers, Carlos Cambeiro and Enrique de Lucas, have succeeded and failed with the Argentine. They have a client whose value was listed in excess of £100m last year but literally leave Garnacho to his own (smartphone) devices.

Cambeiro and De Lucas literally leave Garnacho to his own (smartphone) devices

He is a loose cannon, regularly sounding off on social media, and failing to gag his lippy brother. Cambeiro and De Lucas are part of the problem. They let the world know they were at Stamford Bridge in January, when Chelsea were giving serious consideration to bidding for Garnacho.

Garnacho turns 21 next week yet acts like the finished article. He is finished at United and, in his desperation, has found an ally in Rashford.

The very odd thing about this honest assessment is that it is liked by some and yet any forummers commenting on Utd at the moment is just using any excuse to Bash Utd.
I have said it before, Utd want bashing, and bashing big style. But it is the fans and only the fans that suffer this crap. Do you honestly think this would have happened under fergies tenure.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

This is the MEN's take on the pair....

Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho have become content-creation collaborators in the Manchester United departures' lounge. United still pay their wages but they brazenly undermined their employers with a choreographed stunt on Sunday.

If you did not see Garnacho's Instagram post, he donned an Aston Villa shirt bearing 'Rashford 9', as if Rashford is some cult figure at Villa Park. Rashford tallied four goals in 17 games as Villa slid down the Premier League table, bottled it at Old Trafford to miss out on Champions League qualification and were walloped by Crystal Palace in the FA Cup semi-final.

Rashford was injured for that humbling at Wembley but was present at the boxing at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium later that evening. We are long past the point where Rashford cared about the optics of his social life. He attended a birthday party on Deansgate hours after he was cheered off in a 3-0 Manchester derby defeat at Old Trafford.

Any notion that Garnacho's post was not choreographed beggars belief. You can tell when he is uploading onto his Instagram page (his passive-aggressive pre-Europa League final story and return from the post-season tour).

The other giveaway is Rashford's use of the word "brother" in the comments. It is the most hollow and meaningless noun in football. Rashford and Garnacho have only ever socialised during team-bonding dinners.

Garnacho and Rashford rarely linked up on the pitch, never mind off it. Garnacho pinched Rashford's place on the left wing. One of Rashford's inner circle dubbed him a "f*****g Ronaldo wannabe". Now they are "brothers".

In all probability, neither player literally posted or commented. Rashford's brother, Dwaine Maynard, accidentally sent a tweet intended for Rashford's Twitter account from the DN May Sports agency he runs in September 2021. Having interviewed Rashford, a thoughtful talker, his often banal captions never sound like something he would ever say.

Maynard was summoned to United's Carrington training complex after Rashford's Belfast bender in January 2024. They know their race is run at United but it is still unedifying to see a player who joined the club's academy 20 years ago publicly stoop to such a petty low.

Garnacho's own advisers, Carlos Cambeiro and Enrique de Lucas, have succeeded and failed with the Argentine. They have a client whose value was listed in excess of £100m last year but literally leave Garnacho to his own (smartphone) devices.

Cambeiro and De Lucas literally leave Garnacho to his own (smartphone) devices

He is a loose cannon, regularly sounding off on social media, and failing to gag his lippy brother. Cambeiro and De Lucas are part of the problem. They let the world know they were at Stamford Bridge in January, when Chelsea were giving serious consideration to bidding for Garnacho.

Garnacho turns 21 next week yet acts like the finished article. He is finished at United and, in his desperation, has found an ally in Rashford.

Would question though why can’t a player still have a social life even when injured

Does that mean anytime a player misses a game through any sort of injury he needs to become a hermit until he is fit again ?

Will understand questions about the player on the pitch but off the pitch sometimes it’s a case of just looking for something to point fingers at

Even when he did all that work for school meals for kids people were trying to find a way to look for the negative

Something isnt right with Rashford because it wasn’t that long ago he was getting 30 goals in a season and starting for England - was is because of his back issue ?

 

[Billysboots]

The very odd thing about this honest assessment is that it is liked by some and yet any forummers commenting on Utd at the moment is just using any excuse to Bash Utd.
I have said it before, Utd want bashing, and bashing big style. But it is the fans and only the fans that suffer this crap. Do you honestly think this would have happened under fergies tenure.

What’s odd about it, Tash?

There’s a whole world of difference between a press article written by a sports journalist local to the club and a a forum member having a dig for the sake of it. And I doubt there will be too many United fans who disagree with a single word of it. We are allowed to like or otherwise agree with anti-United sentiment occasionally!

No, this wouldn’t have happened under Ferguson. And it won’t happen under Amorim. Which is precisely why Rashford has been cast aside and why Garnacho is likely to follow him out of the door.