Orikoru
Tour Winner
I really can't see the punishment for City being too severe. A big fine (which is irrelevant to them) and maybe 6 to 8 points deduction at absolute worst. People talking about relegation and expulsion are absolutely dreaming.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Selling someone for big big money helps a lot
The selling off Coutinho turned out to be huge for us - but again needed good recruitment to ensure the money was well spent
We have seen big money coming in being wasted before.
Swango1980
Well-known member
You go on Red Cafe, a Manchester United forum? I mean, that sums it up very nicely, doesn't it.
I don't go on to Red Cafe, albeit I've probably gone on the site about 5-10 times in my life (had a look at it last year). I just don't have the time to spend even more of my life on other social media. Don't do twitter, don't do facebook (unless I want to see when a mates birthday is). Just having a scan at Red Cafe now, the of the 20 threads visible on the front page, not one mentions Liverpool. So, I'd assume chat about Liverpool is significantly lower than chat about Man Utd.
Ohhh, and I wouldn't even consider for a fraction of a second, in the entire existence of my life, to visit a Liverpool forum (or any other club's forum for that matter)
Don Barzini
Assistant Pro
According to that BBC link, 7 of the charges are for breaching PSR rules. Forest received 4 points deduction for one breach last year (with many indignant that it wasn't 6).
So if found guilty of those 7 charges, then I have every confidence that the authorities will be consistent and they can expect a points deduction of between 28 and 42.
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Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
No I don’t post on red cafe -
But a Quick Look as it looks like an open forum
Threads about Trent - 40 plus pages
Thread about slot close to 30 pages
Thread about Klopp even longer
Current thread about Liverpool this season is over 50 pages
The one Liverpool forum I’m registered on
Has one thread about Man Utd in a section on Premier League
It also has one for
Everton
Man City
Chelsea ( that’s seems to have dropped down )
Arsenal
The biggest Liverpool forum which is the equivalent of Red Cafe is RAWK I believe and that has a lot of Man Utd fans registered
Red Cafe I understand has fans registered from multiple clubs
Imagine that - opposition fans wanting to talk to each other
So where are you making all these judgments about Liverpool fans if you don’t do all these other social media sites ? Just here then ? Surely you aren’t being generic based on one single thread about football
Don Barzini
Assistant Pro
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Bit upset there's no Forest one there Arthur.
Keep going and it may replace the Man City one
The threads for two teams are called the “Laugh at …”
RichA
Well-known member
They've probably resurrected the, "We hate Nottingham Forest" chant, if that makes you feel better.Bit upset there's no Forest one there Arthur.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
wou'd have been consistent with the two penalties given to Barca.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Still not got round to watching the highlights but the talk on social media highlights the same thing
Swango1980
Well-known member
That is one hell of a detailed breakdown of what goes on in a Man Utd forum, from a Liverpool fan. I bet there are no Utd fans in here that could have given me that level of detail.
No I don’t post on red cafe -
But a Quick Look as it looks like an open forum
Threads about Trent - 40 plus pages
Thread about slot close to 30 pages
Thread about Klopp even longer
Current thread about Liverpool this season is over 50 pages
The one Liverpool forum I’m registered on
Has one thread about Man Utd in a section on Premier League
It also has one for
Everton
Man City
Chelsea ( that’s seems to have dropped down )
Arsenal
The biggest Liverpool forum which is the equivalent of Red Cafe is RAWK I believe and that has a lot of Man Utd fans registered
Red Cafe I understand has fans registered from multiple clubs
Imagine that - opposition fans wanting to talk to each other
So where are you making all these judgments about Liverpool fans if you don’t do all these other social media sites ? Just here then ? Surely you aren’t being generic based on one single thread about football
Thankyou for the insight, your obsession pays off
Beyond that, what goes on in dedicated forums for fans of the club isn't overly relevant. I'm not going to check, but I assume all Liverpool forums focus primarily on Liverpool. What is the point in spending a lot of energy talking about other clubs when only Liverpool fans are technically members of the forum. Continually telling each other how you hate Man Utd must get boring, when you'll all have the same opinion. The obsession comes when you get to share your views with fans of other clubs. Therefore, out you go into the world, on twitter, golf monthly, etc, and spread your Man Utd opinions. Maybe even go onto Man Utd forums themselves, just because you cannot resist finding out what is going on. I'm sure many Liverpool fans post on Red Cafe if it is an Open forum.
As for Red Cafe, again I can't see any Liverpool related threads, maybe they are buried well down. But, when you have a forum with millions of users, quoting the page numbers means nothing without context. If there are 40 pages on TAA or 30 pages on Slot, that would seem a lot if the number of users was similar to Golf Monthly. But compared to the the 462 pages on Amorim or 217 pages on Man Utd 24/25 transfers, or the many many other pages on numerous Man Utd related posts, the chat about Liverpool is miniscule.
I mean, there are 43 pages on Coleen Rooney's appearance on the Overlap on Red Cafe, so 40 pages on TAA is nothing.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
That is one hell of a detailed breakdown of what goes on in a Man Utd forum, from a Liverpool fan. I bet there are no Utd fans in here that could have given me that level of detail.
Thankyou for the insight, your obsession pays off
Beyond that, what goes on in dedicated forums for fans of the club isn't overly relevant. I'm not going to check, but I assume all Liverpool forums focus primarily on Liverpool. What is the point in spending a lot of energy talking about other clubs when only Liverpool fans are technically members of the forum. Continually telling each other how you hate Man Utd must get boring, when you'll all have the same opinion. The obsession comes when you get to share your views with fans of other clubs. Therefore, out you go into the world, on twitter, golf monthly, etc, and spread your Man Utd opinions. Maybe even go onto Man Utd forums themselves, just because you cannot resist finding out what is going on. I'm sure many Liverpool fans post on Red Cafe if it is an Open forum.
As for Red Cafe, again I can't see any Liverpool related threads, maybe they are buried well down. But, when you have a forum with millions of users, quoting the page numbers means nothing without context. If there are 40 pages on TAA or 30 pages on Slot, that would seem a lot if the number of users was similar to Golf Monthly. But compared to the the 462 pages on Amorim or 217 pages on Man Utd 24/25 transfers, or the many many other pages on numerous Man Utd related posts, the chat about Liverpool is miniscule.
I mean, there are 43 pages on Coleen Rooney's appearance on the Overlap on Red Cafe, so 40 pages on TAA is nothing.
So I’ll ask again
Are you basing Liverpool fans just from this one single thread on a golf forum
Have to say - for someone who did say they weren’t that bothered you are writing a lot of paragraphs about it
What is the issue
Man Utd right now are big news and people are talking about them everywhere mainly because of what a car crash that’s been going on over the last 3 years and more
It’s a talking point that I have seen and heard from fans of many clubs on forums , other social media , even in the golf club
surely you would expect to have maybe thicker skinIf other clubs were going through the same mess as United - that would be the topic of conversation
Is it maybe some sort of deflection away from the club
AmandaJR
Money List Winner
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens with City and their 115 charges. I keep hearing whisperings they're going to get away with just a fine. The fact that Haaland has just signed a 9-year contract and that City look to be spunking several hundred gajillion pounds in this window would seem to suggest they aren't worried.
And if that is the case, then surely the whole PSR system is untenable...?
Ha ha - too funny
Swango1980
Well-known member
I'm responding to you, that is all. Don't start asking me questions, and reminding me to answer questions, and then scold me for replying. And, you have introduced several more points again:So I’ll ask again
Are you basing Liverpool fans just from this one single thread on a golf forum
Have to say - for someone who did say they weren’t that bothered you are writing a lot of paragraphs about it
What is the issue
Man Utd right now are big news and people are talking about them everywhere mainly because of what a car crash that’s been going on over the last 3 years and more
It’s a talking point that I have seen and heard from fans of many clubs on forums , other social media , even in the golf club
If other clubs were going through the same mess as United - that would be the topic of conversation
Is it maybe some sort of deflection away from the club
My views on Liverpool fans: No doubt you are a Liverpool fan that fits my general impression perfectly, and clearly I'm not alone in here on that, so it isn't just me. The very many Liverpool fans I've known throughout my life, many have been the same. In fairness, many were when we were kids and immature. When I have come across football fans in other walks of life, social media, it is always the Liverpool fans that seem to be the loudest, and talking about Man Utd. Remember, I'm talking generally. I'm not saying every Liverpool fan is like this, nor have I obviously met every Liverpool fan. There is another regular poster in here that supports Liverpool, who seems to be a pretty normal football fan for example. But, for me, it is always Liverpool fans that shout the loudest, even if it isn't about their own club.
Man Utd big news: Of course they are, I'm not asking everyone to stop talking about them. Media are motivated by selling themselves. Fans of all other clubs will take the mick and have opinions to a point, and no issue with banter from Liverpool fans. But, I'm not sure there is any other fan on this thread that obsesses with Man Utd so much. Forest fans are almost 100% focused on Forest right now. City fans primarily focus on Man City. It's mainly only Man Utd / Liverpool (not all, see above) fans that spend most of their efforts on Man Utd in here.
Thick skin: There is a saying about pots and kettles, although given most of my own opinions on Man Utd are also negative, probably not a thick skin issue.
Other Clubs in a Mess: Spurs are in a mess, what is the balance of Spurs posts to Man Utd posts from yourself?
Deflection: How can I deflect away from Man Utd by having a conversation about Man Utd?
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
According to that BBC link, 7 of the charges are for breaching PSR rules. Forest received 4 points deduction for one breach last year (with many indignant that it wasn't 6).
So if found guilty of those 7 charges, then I have every confidence that the authorities will be consistent and they can expect a points deduction of between 28 and 42.
42 still wouldn't relegate them most years
How mental is that!
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Spurs ? Never been bothered about them , maybe with Arsenal being their main rivals you would expect them to be vocal about how Spurs are but as we don’t have many Arsenal fans posting on here there won’t be too much to talk about
At the end of the day it’s forum , people chanting , making posts talking football and two clubs are the biggest in England
I suspect there are some posts about Liverpool from the odd obsessive but thankful can’t see them anymore
I really wouldn’t worry about it too much , just imagine the silence you will get when Man Utd are successful again
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
I read a lot about United and comment a lot on them too -
A lot of my mates are United supporters
They've been the biggest/ best club in the country for the majority of my life
20x more news about United than about Villa
I think all fans have opinion on some other teams - and nothing on others.
I don't care to read about Leicester or Fulham, they don't interest me.
@Swango1980
@Arthur Wedge
Can we leave this now please. It's dragging on and sucking the fun out of the thread
@Arthur Wedge
Can we leave this now please. It's dragging on and sucking the fun out of the thread
AmandaJR
Money List Winner
Groundhog day.
