Slime
Tour Winner
I find the vandalism of England's national flag absolutely disgusting.
Whoever signed this off should be sacked.
Whoever signed this off should be sacked.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Definitely an error of judgment. Supporters of national teams are often done with a sense of national pride. The St Georges cross appearing in house windows and flying from cars when England play in a national tournament, kids (and some adults) painting their face. I can imagine some of the disgust from fans of other nations if the kit sponsor / their FA decided to deface their national flag.
But, we oddly seem to live in a society these days where we should be ashamed of ourselves, and constantly be reminded how we should be treating other groups of people much better. Which is ironic as England seems to be one of the top spots in the world where many people would love to live for a much higher quality of life (despite how much us natives like to moan about the weather and institutions like the BBC
).
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
But companies don’t have to break even every year to survive. It’s perfectly normal for businesses to lose money some years.
Slime
Tour Winner
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I couldn't give a stuff what the England shirt looks like when it costs 85 quid, but they should have just not mentioned it having anything to do with the St George's cross. If they just said "here's the shirt, please give us 85 quid" I don't think people would have cared.
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
Funny how no one cried when Nike released a shirt with lots of different coloured little crosses on it a few years ago. What has changed?
Why aren’t people complaining that the collar is blue therefore make the background of the apparent flag completely wrong.
Melts!
Why aren’t people complaining that the collar is blue therefore make the background of the apparent flag completely wrong.
Melts!
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Can't quite see what the fuss is about? Nike have substituted another cross instead of the St George's Cross. Its not red on a white background so it's not the St George's Cross. OK, the England shirt should have the St George's Cross on it but to claim the England national flag has been defaced, vandalised, or otherwise defamed is a bit OTT. IMO.
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
It’s funny watching the people who call everyone else a snowflake or easily offended, being easily offended.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
It's amazing how sensitive people get yet moan at others for complaining about things their passionate about.
Hypocrisy
PaulMdj
Well-known member
Surely it’s the FA at fault, any shirt manafacturer will look to change, update etc a product, the FA obviously signed off on it, so why all the anger at Nike?
That is where the original design came from I guess. They must have bamboozled the FA in a sexy presentation
Ultimately, this will blow over in a few days. That or they will change the design and Nike will sell off the multi coloured batch at a premium for rarity value
Swango1980
Well-known member
Although, if they kept it quiet, it would probably defeat the purpose of them changing it in the first place. Might as well just keep it as the England flag
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah, or don't have an England flag at all. Or just make the shirt one big England flag. Whatever.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
If we lose the friendlies we can blame Nike, nothing to do with GS.That is where the original design came from I guess. They must have bamboozled the FA in a sexy presentation
Ultimately, this will blow over in a few days. That or they will change the design and Nike will sell off the multi coloured batch at a premium for rarity value
Swango1980
Well-known member
There is probably a difference between somebody consuming all of their time and effort, shouting and screaming how they hate something, and maybe starting a campaign or starting legal action due to the pain and suffering it has allegedly caused them, and somebody simply saying "yeah, that was not a good idea, not a decision I would make" and then getting on with their everyday life
It might be more interesting to see whether the decision has any impact on shirt sales. Will they drop by 5%, or even increase by 5%? That might be a better overall metric to decide whether it was a good idea, rather than individual opinions.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
I always thought it was the 3 Lions that was the official badge, the St George’s Cross on the back of the collar is a recent addition.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Of course. There is no requirement at all for a flag to be on the shirt, whether it be the actual flag or a 'reimagined' version of it. It's just a design choice.I always thought it was the 3 Lions that was the official badge, the St George’s Cross on the back of the collar is a recent addition.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
sell it at a premium??????That is where the original design came from I guess. They must have bamboozled the FA in a sexy presentation
Ultimately, this will blow over in a few days. That or they will change the design and Nike will sell off the multi coloured batch at a premium for rarity value
Its already £125 for an "authentic" version and £85 for a "stadium" version.
