The Footie Thread

[clubchamp98]

Crap at his job regardless of who’s playing.

Imho yes .
But the caveat is he’s done 23% more Liverpool games than any other ref since 2019.
This is why most bad games have involved Liverpool.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Imho yes .
But the caveat is he’s done 23% more Liverpool games than any other ref since 2019.
This is why most bad games have involved Liverpool.

Moyes said it best

You should ask the referee and see what they think, we have got to the stage where we are settling for a level of officiating where we are all shrugging our shoulders and saying 'OK'.

 

[clubchamp98]

But only against Liverpool, allegedly.

Why do they keep putting him in charge 23% more than any other ref .

Law of averages says he’s going to make bad decisions if he’s in charge of Liverpools games so much.

Didnt Alex Ferguson try to get a ref banned from UTD games once because of bad decisions agains them?
Cant remember his name!

 

[SteveW86]

Why do they keep putting him in charge 23% more than any other ref .

Law of averages says he’s going to make bad decisions if he’s in charge of Liverpools games so much.

Didnt Alex Ferguson try to get a ref banned from UTD games once because of bad decisions agains them?
Cant remember his name!

It certainly wasnt Howard Webb

 

[clubchamp98]

Moyes said it best

You should ask the referee and see what they think, we have got to the stage where we are settling for a level of officiating where we are all shrugging our shoulders and saying 'OK'.

Would that be acceptable in any other buisness.
Lets be honest footy is big buisness now.

 

[clubchamp98]

It certainly wasnt Howard Webb

Bit before his time I think!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Would that be acceptable in any other buisness.
Lets be hones footy is big buisness now.

I thought refs would improve under webb. Brilliant referee over the years. Done wonders in the USA with their refs

Comes in.. it's got worse since

 

[Tashyboy]

Football owner on the financial Fiddle, who would have thought. Div 1 beckons.

Tottenham Hotspur billionaire Joe Lewis pleads guilty to insider trading charges in US

The businessman, who is worth an estimated £4.8bn, apologised to the court for his conduct, admitting that he knew what he was doing was wrong.

news.sky.com

 

[Hobbit]

Imho yes .
But the caveat is he’s done 23% more Liverpool games than any other ref since 2019.
This is why most bad games have involved Liverpool.

If a ref does more games the % of good v bad shouldn’t change. For example, if his bad rate is 30% and he does 10 games, 3 are bad. If he does 20 games and 6 are bad it’s still 30%.

 

[Swango1980]

Why do they keep putting him in charge 23% more than any other ref .

Law of averages says he’s going to make bad decisions if he’s in charge of Liverpools games so much.

Didnt Alex Ferguson try to get a ref banned from UTD games once because of bad decisions agains them?
Cant remember his name!

More recently, he might have had more Liverpool games (not vastly more, maybe just a few more over last few seasons). But his all time record, transfer market site suggests he has refereed in City games more.

I don't know how they select referees. Maybe it is partly on how highly they are rated compared to peers, but maybe it is also done geographically. Will a referee who lives up north do more northern clubs, as long as they don't support them or rivals?

 

[clubchamp98]

I thought refs would improve under webb. Brilliant referee over the years. Done wonders in the USA with their refs

Comes in.. it's got worse since

Best general in the world is only as good as his soldiers.

 

[clubchamp98]

More recently, he might have had more Liverpool games (not vastly more, maybe just a few more over last few seasons). But his all time record, transfer market site suggests he has refereed in City games more.

I don't know how they select referees. Maybe it is partly on how highly they are rated compared to peers, but maybe it is also done geographically. Will a referee who lives up north do more northern clubs, as long as they don't support them or rivals?

But a Manchester based ref doing the majority of Liverpools games !
That was never going to be troublesome was it ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Stats speak for themselves.

They tell a story on their own without the fluff of the article!

People tend to believe stats if it suits their agenda.

 

[clubchamp98]

If a ref does more games the % of good v bad shouldn’t change. For example, if his bad rate is 30% and he does 10 games, 3 are bad. If he does 20 games and 6 are bad it’s still 30%.

Yes but those games involve Liverpool if he’s there more than anyone else!

 

[clubchamp98]

People tend to believe stats if it suits their agenda.

Always thought that stats were black and white.

How their presented dosnt change that.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Why do they keep putting him in charge 23% more than any other ref .

Law of averages says he’s going to make bad decisions if he’s in charge of Liverpools games so much.

Didnt Alex Ferguson try to get a ref banned from UTD games once because of bad decisions agains them?
Cant remember his name!

Yeah Fergie was probably whinging because he wasn’t getting enough “Fergie time” managers should have no say in who refs their games.

 

[Tashyboy]

Always thought that stats were black and white.

How their presented dosnt change that.

Went to Bletchley park and there was a very good section on how stats could be altered to suit one’s agenda. It was eye opening.

 

[clubchamp98]

Went to Bletchley park and there was a very good section on how stats could be altered to suit one’s agenda. It was eye opening.

115 of them?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Always thought that stats were black and white.

How their presented dosnt change that.

So Lampard was better than Gerrard

 

[Tashyboy]

115 of them?

We are working on it