Yes. But De Gea, as far as I recall, wasn’t anywhere near as established as Onana is supposed to be, and was nowhere near as chained to his own line as Onana is. De Gea was weak on crosses, but at least he came for them.
Yes. But De Gea, as far as I recall, wasn’t anywhere near as established as Onana is supposed to be, and was nowhere near as chained to his own line as Onana is. De Gea was weak on crosses, but at least he came for them.
Swango1980
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Yeah. Although DeGea was a kid in his 1st season. I'd have hoped Onana would have matured enough by now to have a bit of a commanding presence.
I think DeGea was more of an age that growing and maturing as a player would be expected. I think there is less potential for Onana to do that.
That being said, seems we've had a different defence nearly every game, so probably difficult to build up an understanding in both open play and set plays
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Onana is a truly terrible keeper
DDG was 21 when he signed for United. Raw talent
Onana like you say is established, he's 27.. these errors should be behind him.
Slime
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Chained to his own line? I saw him with both feet behind the line on one occasion when the ball was pinging around in the area. Who on earth is doing the recruitment at Utd?
I don’t think he’s terrible - there are some positives - but his all round game is nowhere near at the level you would expect given his age and alleged pedigree.
Maybe he’s just another top quality player who is unsuited to the Premier League. He certainly wouldn’t be the first.
I’m still happy to give him time, but as that time goes by I’m becoming less convinced.
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Guess it’s what’s classed as an injury crisis
Man Utd have 4 out at the moment
Spurs have 7
Stevie wonder
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It seems ATM to be 2 questions
Have they played for ajax?
Can we overpay for them?
Either of them yes then bingo
Antony and onana were double bubble
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Do we have that many top quality keepers who don't make it in the prem? I can't think of many
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Wasn’t De Gea an U21 international when he arrived still learning having only just completed his first full season in football at the top level
clubchamp98
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Depends if Palace get here in the snow.Doh. I'd forgotten about that
It's going to be freezing cold, 2 teams who aren't great at scoring goals. Should we just go straight to penalties?
Its forecast.
Four?
Maguire, Mount, Shaw, Malacia, Martial, Lindelof. That’s six. Casemiro only on the bench today having been out two months. Martinez got his first run out since September.
I think you’re playing down the United injury situation just a little, Phil.
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Grealish is missing from that list!
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Being a GK in the Prem is a step up from the likes of Serie A etc - it’s a step up in pace and intensity as well as having to concentrate for the whole 90mins - Onana is prob just like Tiabi etc - prob ok in those leagues where it’s more pedestrian but just not good enough for the Prem
I meant players in general.
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Agreed players in general but keepers? Don't think we have many. The only one I can think of is Craig Gordon .. but then he wasn't that bad. Injury did him more harm
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Just going by this
And Martial has a cold
Most teams have suffered through injuries, Newcastle the most and Spurs have lost a few key ones as have Man Utd and most other teams
In other news I see Sancho got himself involved for Dortmund getting an assist nice and early
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Swango1980
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Do you think Utd were resting Shaw today then?
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Just going by this
And Martial has a cold
Most teams have suffered through injuries, Newcastle the most and Spurs have lost a few key ones as have Man Utd and most other teams
Martial has been unavailable for at least a couple of weeks, as he has been for a lot of the season, so hardly fit!
I had a count two or three weeks ago and there were at least ten players who I would expect to feature on matchday who were unavailable, mainly through injury.
I’m not suggesting other teams haven’t had issues, but we’ve barely been able to populate the bench for weeks. And that’s on top of a significantly weakened starting line up.
But I’m certainly not naive enough to think the problems don’t run far deeper at United than the injury list, and I am tiring of hearing Ten Hag trot that out as an excuse every week.
