The Footie Thread

[Golfmmad]

Soon as sidwell said Brighton hadn't a clean sheet all season it was always going to be 0-0

Not a game to write home about. Until Brighton brought Adam lallana on I'd say we were just about edging it but then they should have won.

4 clean sheets on the bounce and 10 points in 4 games

That will do to go into the premier league break

You were just about edging it? You're a'vin a laugh! Brighton had most possession, most chances and at least tried to win the game rather than settle for the draw as West Ham did. We should have been more clinical but your keeper was brilliant and saved your bacon as well as our chances.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

You were just about edging it? You're a'vin a laugh! Brighton had most possession, most chances and at least tried to win the game rather than settle for the draw as West Ham did. We should have been more clinical but your keeper was brilliant and saved your bacon as well as our chances.

Until the changes it was very even but our chances were better .. yours were pot shots mostly. Possession means nothing we did you 3-1 last time with 30% of the ball and less shots

That said once lallana came on it changed, the chances were so much better and areola was worked harder . Before the defenders could cut out and break but when lallana came on we couldn't get out our box.

First half we had 37% of the ball 4 shots total (1 target) to your 5 total 3 target ..

End of the game you dominated the chances 22 shots to 6... So yes before the subs it was definitely more even and our chance was more clear cut (sky has it down to 1-2 overall clear cut which is poor from 22 shots)

Like I said. Not a game to write home about both teams missing key players with injury , considering your our bogey team I'll take 4 points and run this season

 

[Norrin Radd]

Brighton drew

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Brighton drew

Brings you into 7th above manure

 

[Norrin Radd]

Brings you into 7th above manure

8man utd
9 toon
10 chelski

 

[Deleted member 21784]

8man utd
9 toon
10 chelski

I'm taking the great positive that unless man united thrash spurs (which wouldn't be all bad ofc) to overcome the goal difference we will still be 6th come our next game 21st January

Bristol city in the cup this weekend then 2 week break to get paquata, coufal , zouma and possibly Antonio back

 

[Hobbit]

@KenL posted up in the Scottish football thread that Leicester are not a bigger club than Celtic or Rangers. Not disputing that at all. Knowing that this thread gets more visits than the Scottish football thread, no disrespect to Scottish football, I thought I’d pose a few questions here - something that coincidently I was thinking on a few nights back.

What makes a big club?
How can a team become a big club?
Do big clubs ever become small clubs?
Are there, currently, any pretenders to the big club club?

For me, a club becomes big when it has a long history of high performance, e.g. Utd & Liverpool, and has a global reach to its fan base. Do big clubs ever become small? That a harder question to answer as the game itself has become bigger, but look at the history of a club like Preston North End, Spurs, Everton, Benfica and Blackpool. From the northeast, I can remember seasons when Middlesbrough & Sunderland were in the old first division and Prem but Newcastle weren’t yet they still figured first on the TV news reports.

Are there any pretenders to the big club club? Are Man City now a big club? Arsenal? Just because there’s a recognised big 4-6 clubs in the Prem, are all of them big clubs. If you did a list of big clubs, who would be in it, and contentiously who wouldn’t.

Utd
Liverpool
Celtic
Rangers
City(?)
Arsenal(?)

Nearly clubs
Chelsea
Spurs
West Ham(?) - look at West Ham’s history when Moore and Peters were there.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If you don't register outside your own country, apart from your own ex-pats, are you really a big club? Rangers come into that category certainly. Celtic are holding on by their finger tips. That won't go down well with plenty on here but it is the reality of it.

I would say City and Arsenal are big clubs.

Nearly clubs, you have to add Newcastle into that category.

 

[Dando]

@KenL posted up in the Scottish football thread that Leicester are not a bigger club than Celtic or Rangers. Not disputing that at all. Knowing that this thread gets more visits than the Scottish football thread, no disrespect to Scottish football, I thought I’d pose a few questions here - something that coincidently I was thinking on a few nights back.

What makes a big club?
How can a team become a big club?
Do big clubs ever become small clubs?
Are there, currently, any pretenders to the big club club?

For me, a club becomes big when it has a long history of high performance, e.g. Utd & Liverpool, and has a global reach to its fan base. Do big clubs ever become small? That a harder question to answer as the game itself has become bigger, but look at the history of a club like Preston North End, Spurs, Everton, Benfica and Blackpool. From the northeast, I can remember seasons when Middlesbrough & Sunderland were in the old first division and Prem but Newcastle weren’t yet they still figured first on the TV news reports.

Are there any pretenders to the big club club? Are Man City now a big club? Arsenal? Just because there’s a recognised big 4-6 clubs in the Prem, are all of them big clubs. If you did a list of big clubs, who would be in it, and contentiously who wouldn’t.

Utd
Liverpool
Celtic
Rangers
City(?)
Arsenal(?)

Nearly clubs
Chelsea
Spurs
West Ham(?) - look at West Ham’s history when Moore and Peters were there.

to be fair the scottish football thread could easliy be merged with the laughter thread

 

[GreiginFife]

to be fair the scottish football thread could easliy be merged with the laughter thread

With the standard of your “jokes” it probably could.

 

[IanM]

I assume the basis for Celtic and Rangers being in that list is that they get big support in a big city?

Chelsea have done more this millennium than the two combined. Does that make them bigger?

Spurs average attendance is more than Rangers and about same as Celtic. And you have to go back to the 60s for when they were a top team!

This "big team" chat is always funny

 

[Deleted member 15344]

A club will be a “big clubs” in various guises and depending on what levels


Ie

Worldwide/Europe - Liverpool , United , Chelsea and City now are what you would call big clubs seen around the globe based on their success and attraction and also fanbase - City winning CL got them into that level

Domestically - within England you can add Arsenal

Nearly clubs - Spurs , Newcastle

The likes of Everton , Forest and Villa used to be big clubs when they were winning titles and European trophies - they aren’t “small clubs” as such

Celtic and Rangers are big clubs in Scotland and they will have a bigger appeal and attraction around the globe than your standard mid table Prem club

Now for a manager within Scotland getting a job at Leicester would be seen as a bigger job , they are moving into a bigger league etc , Leicester won’t have the European appeal that Celtic have had

 

[TimShady]

With the standard of your “jokes” it probably could.

Ignore dandy, his football chat is normally reserved to over emotional outbursts about teams he’d refer to as Liverpoo, ARSEnal and Manure but then he also doesn’t like so called smaller stature leagues like Scotland.

 

[Tashyboy]

Talking of big clubs. Caleta Fuste in Fuertaventura. It is rammed with folk wearing Rangers shirts. Ave never seen so many. Talking to a Rangers fan last night. Even he was shocked as he said it is normally full Of Celtic shirts esp in Lanzarote.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Talking of big clubs. Caleta Fuste in Fuertaventura. It is rammed with folk wearing Rangers shirts. Ave never seen so many. Talking to a Rangers fan last night. Even he was shocked as he said it is normally full Of Celtic shirts esp in Lanzarote.

Lanzarote is always full of Irish.
I actually asked an Irish bloke why when I was there.
He didn’t know

 

[clubchamp98]

Brighton drew

It’s better than losing!

 

[Neilds]

If you don't register outside your own country, apart from your own ex-pats, are you really a big club? Rangers come into that category certainly. Celtic are holding on by their finger tips. That won't go down well with plenty on here but it is the reality of it.

I would say City and Arsenal are big clubs.

Nearly clubs, you have to add Newcastle into that category.

Wednesday don't even register outside their own county but most of their fans still reckon they are a big club and 'deserve' to be in their rightful place in the Premier League despite them not being up there since 2000!

 

[Hobbit]

If you don't register outside your own country, apart from your own ex-pats, are you really a big club? Rangers come into that category certainly. Celtic are holding on by their finger tips. That won't go down well with plenty on here but it is the reality of it.

I would say City and Arsenal are big clubs.

Nearly clubs, you have to add Newcastle into that category.

I had the pleasure of living in Manchester for 10 years. Understandably, football chat revolved around Utd, City, Liverpool & Arsenal + a bit of Chelsea. No one spoke of Newcastle, apart from when they were playing a Manchester team. Everton, based on where they are geographically, figured quite a bit.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I had the pleasure of living in Manchester for 10 years. Understandably, football chat revolved around Utd, City, Liverpool & Arsenal + a bit of Chelsea. No one spoke of Newcastle, apart from when they were playing a Manchester team. Everton, based on where they are geographically, figured quite a bit.

Absolutely, but times change. Despite being a blue we can not claim to be a 'big club' right now. We have moved out of the equation.

When I was a kid, also in the NW of England, Newcastle didn't register at all, as you found out. Even during the Keegan playing years, Waddle, Gascoigne etc they didn't flicker the needle really. Keegan the manager changed that, that era put them on the edge of the big boys. They disappeared again but are currently on the edge again. They have the ground, they have the support, they now have the money to compete and stay at the top table for longer. To become a big club they need to win things and sustain time at the top. I'd put them in that group with Spurs and West Ham right now. Villa might be about to join that group as well.

Interesting times, it is dull if it is always the same old teams.

 

[Tashyboy]

When i emigrated from Rochdale to Mansfield in 1970. First day at school really was like being in a united Nations multicultural classroom. Apart from being shocked at the different accents, kids followed Celtic, Rangers, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Utd, Liverpool, Newcastle, Sunderland and a team called Forest etc etc and I was the only one that followed City. Am not sure in 1970 that it seemed any team was bigger that the next