The Footie Thread

[Swango1980]

Worst penalty ever?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Which player is right by the ball ? Rashford

Thought Richards made a good point in regards Rashford interfering

The defender stepped up to make sure he was offside so that’s Rashford interfering with the play because the defender took himself out of the game to ensure he was offside

But the part in red isn't part of the offside rule. So which of the following offenses has Rashford committed?

"2. Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

• interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
• interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

or

• gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
  • rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
  • been deliberately saved by any opponent"

I haven't seen the incident and have only seen still photos but "interfering with the play because the defender took himself out of the game" isn't an offside offence. In my opinion it should be offside in that situation, in exactly the same way that the Salah goal should be offside as the defender played the ball knowing Salah was behind him, but with the current shambles of an offside rule I can see why both were given.

 

[clubchamp98]

So, you'd rule out Grealish's goal as well? Harsh

Rules are rules .
at least they would be black and white.
is that not better than this mish mash we have now purely for VAR.

 

[Billysboots]

Worst penalty ever?

No. Thierry Henry playing in Robert Pires from the penalty spot wins that by some distance.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

wanting to sell and being able to sell 2 very different things as weve found out the last few years, especially when players on top end wages and in no rush to go

To be fair, Chelsea have some good players on the bench, barely getting a game. They may have to pay off some of the wages but the players themselves are decent.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

What if the bench is plastic?

It would still contribute more than Chris Wood ?

 

[Swango1980]

Rules are rules .
at least they would be black and white.
is that not better than this mish mash we have now purely for VAR.

Fair enough, but if I was a betting man, fans would think didallowing Grealish's goal would be even more outrageous. You would probably have to stop wingers running forward and crossing from goal line, as they'll never get back onside before striker attacks cross

 

[clubchamp98]

Worst penalty ever?

I see lots of penalty spots cut up just where you plant your foot.
its difficult to repair as most are based on sand.
bit surprising to see that on a PL pitch Though.

 

[nickjdavis]

Trippiers delivery has been poor today

 

[Swango1980]

I see lots of penalty spots cut up just where you plant your foot.
its difficult to repair as most are based on sand.
bit surprising to see that on a PL pitch Though.

It took an age to take the penalty, plenty of time for Newcastle players to cut it up

 

[clubchamp98]

Fair enough, but if I was a betting man, fans would think didallowing Grealish's goal would be even more outrageous. You would probably have to stop wingers running forward and crossing from goal line, as they'll never get back onside before striker attacks cross

Yes that’s why they changed it .
it used to be like that years ago .
maybe only in the penalty area then so wingers / fullbacks bombing on are not caught out.
something has to be done.

 

[fundy]

Added time a joke again, shouldve been way more than 5 mins and should end up playing 10 at this rate anyway

 

[Swango1980]

Yes that’s why they changed it .
it used to be like that years ago .
maybe only in the penalty area then so wingers / fullbacks bombing on are not caught out.
something has to be done.

DeBruyne crossed it from in the box. It was changed for very good reason, and I think it has stuck. I've used my friend Google, I believe the "interfering with play" concept has been around since 1903, so 120 years. The current rule probably tries to do a "better" job of defining what that actually means, as I'm sure we'll all agree interfering with play is ridiculously subjective.

Newcastle will be chuffed with that. Potter will also be a bit happier tonight it seems

 

[nickjdavis]

ah well....wasnt pretty but I reckon we are safe from relegation now with 38pts

 

[Pin-seeker]

Where’s big Stu la at?

No. Thierry Henry playing in Robert Pires from the penalty spot wins that by some distance.

forgot about that ?

 

[nickjdavis]

No. Thierry Henry playing in Robert Pires from the penalty spot wins that by some distance.

possibly followed closely by John Terry slipping in the Champions League Final

 

[HomecountiesJohn]

But the part in red isn't part of the offside rule. So which of the following offenses has Rashford committed?

"2. Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

• interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
• interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

or

• gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
  • rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
  • been deliberately saved by any opponent"

I haven't seen the incident and have only seen still photos but "interfering with the play because the defender took himself out of the game" isn't an offside offence. In my opinion it should be offside in that situation, in exactly the same way that the Salah goal should be offside as the defender played the ball knowing Salah was behind him, but with the current shambles of an offside rule I can see why both were given.

My interpretation of the offside rule, Rashford has committed the offence in red.

The Salah goal last week is a completely different situation.

I'm amazed the VAR didnt send the referee over to the monitor.

 

[Beezerk]

Where’s big Stu la at?

He needs his 10 pints first before he comes on and starts harassing people ??

 

[AmandaJR]

Where’s big Stu la at?

Nowt to gloat about. He'll be back if Liverpool turn things around or England lose.

On another note - did the kit man put the Arsenal tracksuit tops on a hot wash??

On another note - Merson is so annoying.

 

[Fade and Die]

Nowt to gloat about. He'll be back if Liverpool turn things around or England lose.

On another note - did the kit man put the Arsenal tracksuit tops on a hot wash??

On another note - Merson is so annoying.

And Mr R Slicker will be waiting to “like” every post. ?