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Just outta interest, if City beat Everton today is big Franks time limited.
I don't think today will tip him over, unless it's a drubbing. It's City after all. Listening to his interviews it's clear he is limited in terms of transfers and the club and he are working within known means. The play isn't awful, we clearly lack goals though and that can take us down.

We have some winnable games coming up in January and how those early games go will see him stay or go. He is certainly in that territory.
 
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They should have cut their teeth in the lower leagues. Both are proven to be out of their depth, Gerrard especially so.

Gerrard cut his teeth at Rangers for a few years but moving to Villa was prob a touch early
 

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Gerrard cut his teeth at Rangers for a few years but moving to Villa was prob a touch early

But the perennial two horse race in the Scottish Premier League is a world away from the EPL, Phil. It’s not even close, as the annual embarrassment of Celtic and Rangers in Europe underlines. It’s staggering that any Liverpool fan still thinks Gerrard will be the next manager once Klopp moves on and, believe me, I know a few who still think like that, even now.
 

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But the perennial two horse race in the Scottish Premier League is a world away from the EPL, Phil. It’s not even close, as the annual embarrassment of Celtic and Rangers in Europe underlines. It’s staggering that any Liverpool fan still thinks Gerrard will be the next manager once Klopp moves on and, believe me, I know a few who still think like that, even now.

Did you actually read what Phil said? ?

You’ve agreed the SPL is a lower level, and Phil agreed that Gerrards move to Villa was too early…..what is there to argue about.

Most Liverpool fans I’ve spoken to only want Gerrard anywhere near the job if he has proved himself capable, which currently I think everyone is agreed he hasn’t.
 

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Did you actually read what Phil said? ?

You’ve agreed the SPL is a lower level, and Phil agreed that Gerrards move to Villa was too early…..what is there to argue about.

Most Liverpool fans I’ve spoken to only want Gerrard anywhere near the job if he has proved himself capable, which currently I think everyone is agreed he hasn’t.

Yes. Believe it or not I can read.

Phil made the point that Gerrard had cut his teeth in Scotland. I merely replied to reinforce my view that cutting his teeth in Scotland does not actually equate to cutting his teeth at all. To all intents and purposes, Gerrard started his managerial career at Villa. Hardly qualifies as an argument, does it?
 

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Yes. Believe it or not I can read.

Phil made the point that Gerrard had cut his teeth in Scotland. I merely replied to reinforce my view that cutting his teeth in Scotland does not actually equate to cutting his teeth at all. To all intents and purposes, Gerrard started his managerial career at Villa. Hardly qualifies as an argument, does it?

So it just needs to be the correct lower level then, as the SPL is too low?

The thing is though, where does he go? Yes the SPL isn’t that competitive, but Rangers are a “big” club and it gave him an opportunity to manage in Europe that he wouldn’t have got at a championship club.

For me, the step to Villa was logical, they were struggling in the bottom half of the prem and it was a great opportunity at another “big” club. He was never going to go to a championship club after what he did at Rangers. The issue has come because he failed at Villa and now he needs to go and prove himself at a lower level again.
 

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It needs to be at the correct level, wherever that is. And, regardless of what Gerrard achieved at Rangers (I’m less convinced by what he did there than some, clearly), it seemed very clear from an early stage that the Premier League was too big a step up for him.
 

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Could this be the years Saints go? It would be a shame, I like the club, but there is a vibe about them that seems worrying. Saying that, the bottom 10 are pretty compressed so if you can put a couple of wins together you can jump up and release some pressure
 
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