Swango1980
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Arsenal were by far the better team today. Even when down to 10 men, you wouldn't have noticed based on how they played.
The penalty is one of those things that could have gone either way, but shocking that VAR forced the refs hand in changing his decision. The second yellow card was really harsh, especially when the incident happened so quickly and it was a momentary instinctive reaction. I'm sure many refs would have not given a yellow, especially as it would mean a red.
Mind you, as a Utd fan I guess I should be pleased, as we'll never catch City this season.
The penalty is one of those things that could have gone either way, but shocking that VAR forced the refs hand in changing his decision. The second yellow card was really harsh, especially when the incident happened so quickly and it was a momentary instinctive reaction. I'm sure many refs would have not given a yellow, especially as it would mean a red.
Mind you, as a Utd fan I guess I should be pleased, as we'll never catch City this season.
paddyc
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Obviously a spurs fan who needs to go to Specsavers!
Beezerk
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Wow, they could barely get the ball when I was watching ?
Btw how shocking are the commentators on BT, awful.
Swango1980
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Maybe less possession, but City didn't look a threat, and Arsenal looked like they could still be a threat.
Martin Keown is a candidate for the stupidest co commentator in football. McManaman was trying to ask him was VAR right in getting ref to review the penalty. He kept answering the ref had little choice to give a penalty as VAR asked him to review it. No matter how many times McManaman asked the question, Keown did not understand the question at all.
Just saw the slow motion of the Arsenal penalty that wasnt given, and one angle clearly shows the keeper kicked the Arsenal players foot before the ball. Absolutely clear. Yet, Walton after game tries to defend VAR by saying it was a subjective call, but also understands Rio's point it was a clear penalty. Sums it up really.
Blue in Munich
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McManaman is appalling, but Peter Walton trying to defend VAR is even worse, and frankly embarrassing. Apparently VAR wasn't brought in to see minute detail
Well it seems to be doing exactly that for offside decisions. 
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McManaman is appalling, but Peter Walton trying to defend VAR is even worse, and frankly embarrassing. Apparently VAR wasn't brought in to see minute detail
Didnt Peter Walton say he didn’t think it would/should be overturned?
I agree McManaman is shocking. Changes his mind from game to game whats a foul and and a pen.
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DanFST
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Hmm, Arsenal fans had no problems with the Coufal "penalty" and red card the other week?
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thought all fans (including arsenal) on here (and off here I found) were against the pen
only people that thought was a pen was the ref, VAR and Moyes ironically
clubchamp98
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That’s a great finish .Lanzini.
Didn’t see the City game but looks like the reffing was the usual standard.
Didn’t see the City game but looks like the reffing was the usual standard.
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He loves a goal against palace, 5 in 10 games against them
2-0 is massively flattering us should be 2-2 at least
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100% handball. Not even a question but a pen? Hard to say 100% for me
When it happened I thought that's a free kick
If it goes in then even harder on palace
When it happened I thought that's a free kick
If it goes in then even harder on palace
Fade and Die
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How are we 3 up????
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I dunno! I mean all 3 of our goals are deserved in one way as in the play for them was outstanding and that was handball
However it should be 5-3 to them
pendodave
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Lol. Just remember how many times we've coughed up a loss when playing well. Still think we need a fourth...
Pen was so annoying if you're a palace fan. Totally innocuous, no-one anywhere near. Seems like a massive punishment for a trivial mistake.
ColchesterFC
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Totally agree that it's a penalty but how hasn't the ref given that without needing VAR? He's stood about 5 yards away and has a clear view of it. Are refs bottling giving decisions because they know they've got VAR to make the decision for them?
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Poor mistake by him tho, didn't need to handle it
