golfdub
Tour Rookie
i have just bought the phil mickleson short game dvd for £18 of ebay so im going to give this a go and if he mentions the clock method then i will defiantly give it a go as he is the star of the short game after all 

Its quite a thick book mate, ive not plucked up the courage to read it yet but im getting there. If you remind me I will bring it to Formby and let you have a browse to see if its the sort of thing that would interest you.
Im gonna start reading over winter as im guessing wrong too much with the short game :rofl:
I use it and it works a treat. However you MUST swing to a full finish and once you have calculated the yardages and written them down, you have to trust them. They do work. It is a bit too mechanical for many, it does try to take feel out of the shot and like Foxholer I found the 7:30 position difficult, but it has improved my 100 yards and in game hugely.
Its quite a thick book mate, ive not plucked up the courage to read it yet but im getting there. If you remind me I will bring it to Formby and let you have a browse to see if its the sort of thing that would interest you.
Im gonna start reading over winter as im guessing wrong too much with the short game :rofl:
Phil says that if someone tries to teach you the clock method then 'RUN' They are crazy
[video=youtube;vZWPee66M1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZWPee66M1s[/video]
If you watch him take his shot he goes back to 7.30 and accelerates through.
That is basically the clockface drill.
If he needed a longer shot he would take it back further,say to 9 oclock and accelerate through.
What hes basically saying is don't take the club back to 9 oclock if you only need a 7.30 shot.
What Phil says in the video is that it is wrong to go back as far as you want to swing through eg. 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock. This is not what Pelz teaches. He says you should use the clock method for your backswing and always swing to a full finish. This ensures that the ball always goes the same distance and that you accelerate through the ball. Exactly what Phil says you must do.Phil says that if someone tries to teach you the clock method then 'RUN' They are crazy
[video=youtube;vZWPee66M1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZWPee66M1s[/video]
I enjoyed the early bits, as he uses quite interesting stories to illustrate his lessons. How he got into teaching, how he came to realise 100 yards and in was the most important aspect of the game, scoring wise.Had a flick through this tonight and theres a lot i found boring early on but im liking the how to score section. Looks an interesting way of going about the shorter shots.
I use the system on 3 wedges with three clock face positions with both choked down and full grip, so that gives me 18 yardages. If you can remember all those without writing them down, then you have a better head for figures than me, and thats before you add in 9 iron, 8 iron etc. I just have them written inside my scorecard holder. I may have to refer to it once, maybe twice a round. Pelz himself suggests you do this. The full finish I was referring to is the finesse swing for 100 yards and in.Shouldn't be a need to write the yardages down. If you can remember your 7-iron or 150 yard club, theres little additional memory required. And the 'full finish' that you are talking about is 'his' finesse one, not the full 5/6 iron one - so about 10:30-11 on the follow through.
You can use them with any club, but mainly for the short game, 100 yards and in.What sort of distances are these 'clock method' shots to-from?
It isn't pitching per se that's the problem. I could be more accurate from 40-100 yards but think that applies to most on here. My issues are all around chipping and arguably all in the head these days. Got a better set up with more neutral position to use the bounce and working hard with the v-easy. I think two years of fatting and skulling shots has bled into the psyche and so there is zero confidence in the ability to achieve. No coincidence that if I start chipping well at the start of a round confidence grows and vice versa if I duff the first one
I find the clock face and the thought of trying to hit specific lengths just adds one more thought and variable to a simple task I've already over complicated and over thought. The winter is about getting a bulletproof technique and clearing the chocolate frogs from the head. When I get it right the natural feel and distance control is spot on. It's the getting it right that's the issue
I use the system on 3 wedges with three clock face positions with both choked down and full grip, so that gives me 18 yardages. If you can remember all those without writing them down, then you have a better head for figures than me, and thats before you add in 9 iron, 8 iron etc. I just have them written inside my scorecard holder. I may have to refer to it once, maybe twice a round. Pelz himself suggests you do this. The full finish I was referring to is the finesse swing for 100 yards and in.