bobmac
Major Champion
2025 is going to be a very interesting year with many new EVs coming to these shores
The all things EV chat thread
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Mudball
Assistant Pro
While I am all up for new entrants, but I still think that the UK has some structural challenges that it needs to address. eg. more and convenient charging, cheaper leccy, incentive to switch etc.
larmen
Head Pro
Fully charged did a rundown of what is to be expected.
Personally, I think we’re now in a good situation when it comes to 2nd hand, so my ‘what’s new’ would be from 2 or 3 years ago. That’s what coming on the market now. And it seems to be getting much better than a year ago.
Captain_Black.
Well-known member
I've been looking at all the offerings just lately.
I'm impressed with some of the equipment levels & tech inside the cabin.
However, I think EV's are in their infancy atm.
I can't get past the huge cost in both purchase price & depreciation.
Also for me the major drawbacks are.
Vehicle weight
Replacement battery cost (if & when req'd)
Range of some of the smaller cars
I do think the future is EV, but I also think technology will improve at a pace which will address the present shortcomings.
That unfortunately will spell disaster for the resale values of the present crop of EV's
So for now, I'll be sticking to my oil burner, when I'm satisfied that the technology has sufficiently moved on, I'll probably buy one.
I'm impressed with some of the equipment levels & tech inside the cabin.
However, I think EV's are in their infancy atm.
I can't get past the huge cost in both purchase price & depreciation.
Also for me the major drawbacks are.
Vehicle weight
Replacement battery cost (if & when req'd)
Range of some of the smaller cars
I do think the future is EV, but I also think technology will improve at a pace which will address the present shortcomings.
That unfortunately will spell disaster for the resale values of the present crop of EV's
So for now, I'll be sticking to my oil burner, when I'm satisfied that the technology has sufficiently moved on, I'll probably buy one.
hambugerpete
Well-known member
What's the relevance of weight?
Most batteries have long guarantees and will outlast the car.
The only real blocker I can see is charging for some.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
The weight has a big bearing on how quickly the tyres wear out.
My sons needed new tyres after only 8000 miles.
hambugerpete
Well-known member
Did you buy cheap crap or does he drive like a loon.
Maybe he's doesn't look after them or the car properly. No issues with tyres here.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
A lot of it depends on the tyre profile. Higher profiles like on a SUV type EV will wear better than low profiles on the more saloon/coupe styles.Did you buy cheap crap or does he drive like a loon.
My mate’s Model S goes through tyres faster than my RWD 8 series. Both cars roughly same dimensions but his is around 400Kg heavier than mine (1839kg vs 2247Kg I think it was).
We both put tyres on in August 2023, still on mine but his were swapped in August 24 and showing real wear again.
He drives like Miss Daisy for reference.
hambugerpete
Well-known member
If his tyres are wearing already since August then there is something seriously wrong with his car or his driving or both.
21k on my fronts , still tons of tread, rears are brand new as 1 got punctured.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
Nothing wrong with either. His driving is pedestrian and the car is meticulously maintained by Tesla.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Or maybe it’s just the weight of the car.Did you buy cheap crap or does he drive like a loon.
Brand new VW id5 ,
He’s got four kids in so not Ayrton Senna.
hambugerpete
Well-known member
I'm sorry but 8000 milesOr maybe it’s just the weight of the car.
Brand new VW id5 ,
He’s got four kids in so not Ayrton Senna.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes .I'm sorry but 8000 miles
My theory is.
It’s a NHS salary sacrifice PCP inc servicing insurance etc.
There was nothing wrong with them but the service garage changed all four stating they were under the minimum.
They stated the weight of the car was the cause!
If you know sweet FA about cars he’s not going to argue.
PIng
Head Pro
I got over 22,000 from the front tyres on my MG5 and they were still legal. The rears have now done over 30,000 with plenty of life in them.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
We used to use Northgate for our company cars, they were changing out tyres on a regular basis, much too often we thought. We were convinced they had a scam going on where they would sell them on as part worn tyres.
In other news, my PHEV Tiguan is getting delivered today
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
When you go into the service stations now they have all that information on tyres and tread, anything under 5mm they flag up as amber on their checks , just to warn you. Like you say your son might have just thought they cover them always so just replace them.
I went to replace one cars when they had 3mm left and the fitter kept saying are you sure they are ages of life in these.
Guess that's why you have so many good part worn tyres about lol
I'm guessing, if it arrives charged, this will be the only time it ever happens? Your bosses still refuse to pay for charging?We used to use Northgate for our company cars, they were changing out tyres on a regular basis, much too often we thought. We were convinced they had a scam going on where they would sell them on as part worn tyres.
In other news, my PHEV Tiguan is getting delivered today
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Three other lads took delivery with flat batteries
I've got no intention of charging it at home for work purposes, I had a semi drunken discussion with the new manager at xmas about it and his message was they weren't bothered about us charging them as the tax breaks make up for it, I think a proper discussion will be had in the near future though. Reading up on public chargers it looks to be more expensive to pay for a fast charge at a service station than it does to just run it on petrol
One grey area, we get charged around 12p per mile for private mileage, if I charge it myself at home we can get maybe 3 or 4 pence per mile by just using the battery. It's penny pinching but if you do a lot of private miles it would work out cheaper in the long run to charge it at home. Quite how that can be worked out with my emplyer and HMRC is puzzling.
hambugerpete
Well-known member
That's the trouble with PHEVs, if you don't use the phev bit then you're just lugging extra weight about and that makes a big difference to fuel economy.Three other lads took delivery with flat batteries
I've got no intention of charging it at home for work purposes, I had a semi drunken discussion with the new manager at xmas about it and his message was they weren't bothered about us charging them as the tax breaks make up for it, I think a proper discussion will be had in the near future though. Reading up on public chargers it looks to be more expensive to pay for a fast charge at a service station than it does to just run it on petrol
One grey area, we get charged around 12p per mile for private mileage, if I charge it myself at home we can get maybe 3 or 4 pence per mile by just using the battery. It's penny pinching but if you do a lot of private miles it would work out cheaper in the long run to charge it at home. Quite how that can be worked out with my emplyer and HMRC is puzzling.
