The all things EV chat thread

[Billysboots]

I’m finding it very hard to differentiate between this thread and the “would you buy an EV” thread.

Contemplating merging both

Any convincing arguments for not merging please post

Can’t we just all agree that EV’s are more hassle than they’re worth, and close both threads?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Can’t we just all agree that EV’s are more hassle than they’re worth, and close both threads?

Ha…………No

 

[bobmac]

When will the battery need replacing and how much will it cost?

That's like asking how long a car engine will last.
It depends.
Most Evs now have an 8 year or 100,000 mile guarantee so that's your minimum.
The cost will vary, depending on the size of the battery

 

[Alan Clifford]

That's like asking how long a car engine will last.
It depends.
Most Evs now have an 8 year or 100,000 mile guarantee so that's your minimum.
The cost will vary, depending on the size of the battery

Hmmm, 8 years doesn't really compare well to the life of an internal combustion engine.

 

[PIng]

Hmmm, 8 years doesn't really compare well to the life of an internal combustion engine.

Not really. My MG EV comes with a 7 year warranty, as do their internal combustion cars, but nobody frets about engines failing after 7 years. It's just the warranty period, not the life expectancy.

 

[bobmac]

Hmmm, 8 years doesn't really compare well to the life of an internal combustion engine.

I have a TV that was guaranteed for 1 year.
After the year was up I didn't throw it away, it's still working perfectly well 10 years later.
The point is just because the guarantee is 8 years, it's not going to suddenly stop working after 8 years. Yes, there will be a gradual reduction in range as the years go on but the newer the battery the longer it will last

I've just checked the following manufacturers warranties....
BMW 3 Years
Ford 3 Years
Mazda 3 years
Audi 2 years
Skoda 3 years
Vauxhall 3 years
etc

 

[bobmac]

''According to Tesla, your Tesla batteries are supposed to last for 300,000 to 500,000 miles, or 1,500 battery cycles. That’s around 22 to 37 years for an average person.''

https://ev-lectron.com/blogs/blog/how-long-does-a-tesla-battery-last

 

[bobmac]

In 2010 things were different...
''The average cost of an electric car battery in 2021 was c.£87 per kWh. While this is still expensive, it is much lower than in 2010 when an electric car battery cost c.£763 per kWh.
Unfortunately, this does make an electric car battery replacement a very expensive job. As of December 2023, the average electric car battery costs £5,378.43 in the UK (estimated)''
£3393 for my Nissan Leaf.

https://bookmygarage.com/electric-vehicles/how-much-does-an-electric-battery-cost-uk/

These prices are expected to continue to fall.

So when Jeremy Clarkson said you have to change the battery every 3 years and will cost £20,000, he was talking rubbish.
And while I'm at it, you cannot just unplug a car that's charging, they are locked into the car and the charger.

 

[bobmac]

Despite the Pandemic.....

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Threads merged

 

[doublebogey7]

Hmmm, 8 years doesn't really compare well to the life of an internal combustion engine.

Please stop trolling............or perhaps you don't realise how ridiculous that comment is.

 

[williamalex1]

Ideal

 

[Jamesbrown]

After 2 and a bit years with my e208 I’ve ordered the Cupra Born. So would you buy an electric car again? Yes. Works for me!

 

[PJ87]

After 2 and a bit years with my e208 I’ve ordered the Cupra Born. So would you buy an electric car again? Yes. Works for me!

My personal advice (dunno if you agree) is avoid the stellious group (Peugeot, vauxhall) the electric side is ok but the quality of the car is awful

My driver's seat stitching is already coming apart ... I mean my big car is 7 years old from SEAT and gets treated like a work horse .. yet actually build quality is miles better

Copra looks lovely

I want leaf e plus or Kia niro next



I mean come on .. 20,000 miles on clock and the state of it

 

[Jamesbrown]

My personal advice (dunno if you agree) is avoid the stellious group (Peugeot, vauxhall) the electric side is ok but the quality of the car is awful

My driver's seat stitching is already coming apart ... I mean my big car is 7 years old from SEAT and gets treated like a work horse .. yet actually build quality is miles better

Copra looks lovely

I want leaf e plus or Kia niro next

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I mean come on .. 20,000 miles on clock and the state of it

Had no quality issue with the Peugeot though others got a frosty screen. If they had another electric model to order I would consider it. Did have the common ABS loom fault. Out of 5 people at work with them all but one has had it.
It was between the born or the MG4. Pulled up in the car park to look at the MG4 and the missus said no too boy racer ish and the wheels look crap didn’t even get to get out the car.
I was hoping the Tesla hatchback was out by now but no sign of that soon.

 

[PJ87]

Had no quality issue with the Peugeot though others got a frosty screen. If they had another electric model to order I would consider it. Did have the common ABS loom fault. Out of 5 people at work with them all but one has had it.
It was between the born or the MG4. Pulled up in the car park to look at the MG4 and the missus said no too boy racer ish and the wheels look crap didn’t even get to get out the car.
I was hoping the Tesla hatchback was out by now but no sign of that soon.

I had the loom fault just last month! They had to borrow a part from a stock car because they can't get them


Affects all models not just electric

Who would have thought the French and poor wiring

 

[Scoobiesnax]

Mrs is considering getting a Tesla Model Y as a company car. Quite intrigued and would be a good preview into life with electric cars. I've said if she does go down that route for us to put a double charger in early as I no doubt will have to get an electric car in the coming years.

 

[PJ87]

Mrs is considering getting a Tesla Model Y as a company car. Quite intrigued and would be a good preview into life with electric cars. I've said if she does go down that route for us to put a double charger in early as I no doubt will have to get an electric car in the coming years.

Really depends how often you need to charge..If you could do every other night then one charger is more than enough

Double charger would use a lot of power at once .. some networks wouldn't let you get them I believe, or would make it so they balanced the charge a bit between them

I'd say get one proper charger and an outside plug set up at the same time

Then if you did need to charge the second one you could use the 3 pin charger

If you find it doesn't work and you need more then could add the other one rather than spend a fair bit a cash for something you might not need

 

[HPIMG]

Been test driving a bunch of electric cars all week turns out wife really likes the bmw ix I really don’t like it at all. Trying my hardest to talk her out of it.
My main concern is the batteries are just ok the now but in say 2/3 years I would expect a leap forward in technology and meaning there’s a high chance you end up stuck with the car because no one wants old technology. Anyone thinking like me ?

 

[PIng]

Been test driving a bunch of electric cars all week turns out wife really likes the bmw ix I really don’t like it at all. Trying my hardest to talk her out of it.
My main concern is the batteries are just ok the now but in say 2/3 years I would expect a leap forward in technology and meaning there’s a high chance you end up stuck with the car because no one wants old technology. Anyone thinking like me ?

That was a concern of mine, but in the end I took the view that if you put off buying things today because something better will come along then you'll never buy anything.