Swing Speed - Interim video

[sweatysock41]

Swing speed means nothing without a good contact though. If your looking for the main key it's ball speed. Which gives you... distance.

Ball speed and overall distance is affected by: club head, ball type, ball temperature, ambient temperature, shaft flex characteristics, contact, spin rate, etc. The common denominator in all that is club head speed.

I intend to have a comprehensive driver fitting to maximise distance once I've achieved the swing speed target.

How on earth can club head speed be a common denominator for temperature either ambient or ball. The ball is stationary before you hit it how can the temperature of the ball affect club head speed or club head speed affect temperature. Temperature affects the ball irrespective of your club head speed, it doesn't matter whether you swing at 130 mph or 90mph temperature will affect your ball to a varying degree.

 

[timgolfy]

Distance is a red herring now is it - you do like to contradict yourself don't you? What's the point increasing your swing speed if you see distance as a red herring.

You started on here by telling us driving it 300+ yds is the quickest way to scratch, so I'd like to know if you're looking for total distance or carry?

Oh ffs. Here we go again. Is there something in the water down in Reading which makes you argumentative? You obviously need a muzzle and leash too.

I want a swing speed of 115mph. Depending on weather conditions, contact, ball temperature, wind, spin, ball type, shaft, head, etc, etc, etc, that should equate to around 300 yards according to Titleist.

What else would you like to know?

 

[doubletripledouble]

Sorry but ball speed is measured when it leaves the club face. i.e Not when it is affected by wind etc.

Swingspeed is just how fast you swing. Nothing to do with how well you hit the ball.

 

[timgolfy]

Sorry but ball speed is measured when it leaves the club face. i.e Not when it is affected by wind etc.

Swingspeed is just how fast you swing. Nothing to do with how well you hit the ball.

Correct.

 

[stevek1969]

at the end of the day round my track i 'd rather be 250 in play ,that way i can make a score,and my swing speed i can do that

 

[doubletripledouble]

Sorry but ball speed is measured when it leaves the club face. i.e Not when it is affected by wind etc.

Swingspeed is just how fast you swing. Nothing to do with how well you hit the ball.

Correct.

Sorry i forgot to add that Ball speed is all to do with good contact. Imparting too much of the wrong spin. i.e poor compression, loses ball speed.
A consistent ball speed will be pretty consistent results distance wise. A consistent Swingspeed means nothing of the kind.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Distance is a red herring now is it - you do like to contradict yourself don't you? What's the point increasing your swing speed if you see distance as a red herring.

You started on here by telling us driving it 300+ yds is the quickest way to scratch, so I'd like to know if you're looking for total distance or carry?

Oh ffs. Here we go again. Is there something in the water down in Reading which makes you argumentative? You obviously need a muzzle and leash too.

I want a swing speed of 115mph. Depending on weather conditions, contact, ball temperature, wind, spin, ball type, shaft, head, etc, etc, etc, that should equate to around 300 yards according to Titleist.

What else would you like to know?

I'm not being argumentative, I asked you a question which yet again you failed to answer. I'm honestly interested in whether you are trying to carry the ball 300yds or just hit it that far in total.

The reason being, during the golf season, I can hit the ball close to 300yds total distance and I don't have a swing anywhere close to 115mph. I can't carry it that far but I don't need too for the courses I play and I'm never going to need to.

The question I asked was a simple one that needs a simple answer, I'm just trying to understand what you are trying to achieve - although I'm really not sure why I'm bothering to feed you ego

 

[Alex1975]

@OP I note that on your video that you have your hands way forwards, I guess to deloft the club. I used to do that alot but have just changed it and gained alot of yards by doing so. To be fair I also got a driver with a better shaft and loft for me. Try moving your hands back more central and open up the club face to square it back up. It does work, I am no pro but I also think it is more correct... is it?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Couple of questions Tim

1. How far are you hitting the ball at the moment? and are you accurate?
2. Whats your short game like?
3. Whats your putting like

Sorry thats 4 questions

I believe that too much focus is put on the long game, Yes you have to be able to get the ball to within a range where you can put it on the green.

The important thing is can you put the ball to within 10 feet of the pin from 150 yards again and again and again.

I cant

If you miss the green by 30 yards, can you chip to within 6 ft of the flag 75% of the time?
I cant

Can you sink 75% of your putts from 6ft?
I cant

If you cant either you would be best advised to concentrate your efforts on your short game where you use most of your shots rather than this preoccupation with length.

Ask yourself why the guys who take part in the longest drive competitions aren't cleaning up on tour?

Size isnt everything dear boy

Fragger

 

[JustOne]

@OP I note that on your video that you have your hands way forwards, I guess to deloft the club. I used to do that alot but have just changed it and gained alot of yards by doing so. To be fair I also got a driver with a better shaft and loft for me. Try moving your hands back more central and open up the club face to square it back up. It does work, I am no pro but I also think it is more correct... is it?

His setup looks perfect to me. He can swing through as hard as he likes and not risk hitting down on the ball. Nice if you can do it.

 

[JustOne]

The important thing is can you put the ball to within 10 feet of the pin from 150 yards again and again and again.

All good points Fragger for lowering a h/cap but not much point hitting nicely from 150yds if you've left yourself 180yds

The pros miss HEAPS of greens from 150 but it's getting up and down from around the green (as you mention too) that is clutch.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Having seen the video I'm even more convinced excessive swing speed isn't going to help. It needs perfect tempo and everything else to be working in harmony. That swing has more moving parts than mine and I look like I'm fighting an ocotpus in a phonebooth as it is.

I'm afraid there is no way you'll ever get that swing, with 125mph swing speed to work effectively to get you to single figures. You may get some out there to 300 yards (are we talking carry or roll) but how many fairways you hit and therefore how well you score is very debatable. Not trying to poop on your parade or be confrontational but just the way I see it.

 

[mostivoi]

I have to ask this. What do you play off?

 

[stevek1969]

all good points guys ,why does the op have a facination with length,golf is a game of getting the ball in the hole in the fewest strokes or am i missing something.you'll never get to 125 with that swing unless you try to hit it that hard you spin yourself into the ground.

some questions

1.whats your handicap
2.what are you trying prove
3.can you chip and putt

golf aint all about length my friend

 

[thecraw]

To be fair Tim, I admire you for sticking around after the abuse you took in your first few posts. I also like the fact that you've put up a clip of your swing in this thread. (if that is you and your swing) I also believe that this is your best post to date and probably your most accurate.

Finally my money is on you when you and your pal Homer get it on.

Welcome to the forum dude.

 

[IM01]

No point in having the swing speed if you can't find the middle of the club/sweet spot...all things need to come together.

Swing from the ground up and I think you could wing it a long way.