Speeding in a thirty limit

[Deleted member 15344]

Funny? Your pathetic attempt to tell everybody how to live their lives. I am almost sure you were banging on about personal responsibility on another thread but on this one it doesn't suit your argument. You have the temerity to tell anybody that breaks the speed limit that puppy dogs die and the world stops turning but have been caught speeding yourself.

If anybody asks you a question hat doesn't suit your agenda/argument you just ignore them, it really is quite sad. Anyway you enjoy the view from your high horse as I won't be seen it anymore.

Cheery bye

Puppy dogs ? Nah - I said children :thup:

You live your life how you wish but be aware at times your choices will effect other people

The road is full of people - if people were more aware of everyone else the possibly the roads might be a safer place

Yes I have broken the speed limit - didn't ignore that question , yes I have been caught speeding - I don't believe at any time I said I didn't

Have a good evening :thup:

 

[williamalex1]

When I got pulled over for not wearing my seatbelt I lied & said I was actually wearing it. The police officer took me into his car & showed me a clear pic of me not wearing it. He said if I'd just held my hands up & said it was a genuine mistake he'd have let me off with a warning. I ended up with a small fine.

Lucky not to get another 6 points:rofl:

 

[Foxholer]

When I first moved down here I was still working in Edinburgh so used to drive up early (4.30/5am) for the week.

One time I was going along at 70 or maybe just under with a completely empty road and the police stopped and breathalised me! Apparently one sign of a drunk driver is that they drive right at the speed limit when the police would expect them to be speeding!!

I used to make that run too - 2007/8 or so. I used to set off from my place (Egham area) at about 01:00 and try to get to Tebay/Westmoreland for early breakfast and a rest. Averaged 70 once!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Lucky not to get another 6 points:rofl:

Pahahaha I'd av been annoyed if I'd seen the officer that issued the fine /giving 6points doing the same (not wearing a seat belt) the next day

 

[Foxholer]

....
A little girl about 100 yards in front of me ran out into the road chasing her dog - she was 7

She got hit by a car doing 30mph - the driver reacted and skidded but still hit her , we all tried our best at the scene but it was clear she had a head injury as well as legs being broken

Unfortunately the little girl passed away - it was my mates little girl.

I had to go to the coroners as witness and listened to all the reports

The driver wasn't breaking the speed limit but they worked out that he hit the car at 24 mph

And that she died of a brain trauma because the force of the collision through her onto the floor where she hit her head.

...
If you have a blowout at 69 and plough into someone then you at least know you were driving within the laws of this country.

There's something scarily hypocritically contradictory about these 2 posts!

 

[SocketRocket]

The road is full of people - if people were more aware of everyone else the possibly the roads might be a safer place

Prophetic , all seeing, Yoda reborn!

 

[NWJocko]

I used to make that run too - 2007/8 or so. I used to set off from my place (Egham area) at about 01:00 and try to get to Tebay/Westmoreland for early breakfast and a rest. Averaged 70 once!

Must have been doing something else to only be going 70, used to make "swift" time on that trip as there was only a couple of lorries on the M6/74.

The A road across to Edinburgh was good fun in the wee fast car I had at the time.

Common sense applied and all was fine, just find it ironic with all the bleating on here that the only time I was stopped was when I was on or even under the speed limit as the police thought it was suspicious! If I'd been doing 80 they wouldn't have bothered their backsides.

 

[Foxholer]

Must have been doing something else to only be going 70, used to make "swift" time on that trip as there was only a couple of lorries on the M6/74.

The A road across to Edinburgh was good fun in the wee fast car I had at the time.

Common sense applied and all was fine, just find it ironic with all the bleating on here that the only time I was stopped was when I was on or even under the speed limit as the police thought it was suspicious! If I'd been doing 80 they wouldn't have bothered their backsides.

I said Averaged 70! And on (just) less than a tank of Diesel too.

A702 was my turn-off. Pleasant light early in the morning. Coulter could be dodgy if not alert! Preference was to stop at the Services for Coffee and a Cookie to change from Motorway to A-Road mind-set.

 

[NWJocko]

I said Averaged 70! And on (just) less than a tank of Diesel too.

A702 was my turn-off. Pleasant light early in the morning. Coulter could be dodgy if not alert! Preference was to stop at the Services for Coffee and a Cookie to change from Motorway to A-Road mind-set.

A702 was the way I went, the Moffat road was a more scenic drive but that way quicker.

Never stopped at Abingdon unless nature was calling, if police set up cameras on the Dolphinton straight they'd fill the coffers on a weekly basis!

 

[guest100718]

My daughter asked what it meant when the traffic light went orange. I told her it was the signal to floor it and get through before it goes red.. She asked her mother later who gaver her the same reply.

 

[Foxholer]

My daughter asked what it meant when the traffic light went orange. I told her it was the signal to floor it and get through before it goes red.. She asked her mother later who gaver her the same reply.

The fact that after your reply she then asked her mother say quite a bit!

 

[MadAdey]

You miss my point.

Simply reducing speed limits does not reduce speeds significantly.

If everybody drove in a 'safe manner' there'd be no need to do anything, but as they don't...
Traffic Calming measures work best - at least in the 30 or 40mph type areas.

I didn't miss your point. If you read what i wrote I did say about 6 different factors that contribute towards RTA's. Point I was trying to point out is some of them just can't be dealt with and some are just being ignored.

 

[Foxholer]

I'm waiting for the time when... you enter your destination and the car transports you there - without the necessity of a 'driver'! Conceptually simple; practically challenging! But that's what Engineers love!

It's coming! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25861214

No surprise Google is involved! Another Antitrust candidate? Google has plenty on the go already - just Google 'Google antitrust'!

 

[Foxholer]

I didn't miss your point. If you read what i wrote I did say about 6 different factors that contribute towards RTA's. Point I was trying to point out is some of them just can't be dealt with and some are just being ignored.

I think you did and still have, though it may only be a wording thing - or I may not be getting my message across well (as LPP can't seem to see the difference either).

Your 6 factors may be close, but you don't mention 'speed' without it being associated with 'limit', My assertion is that 'speed' is the important thing and 'limit' is a tool, but otherwise irrelevant. And in this reply, I'll only deal with the speed factor - as that's what is promarily relevant to this thread.

I'll try a different tack.

Would it matter what the limit was if the speeds were (reduced to) the appropriate level? No.

Does simply placing a limit on an area reduce the speed significantly? No!

Do traffic calming measures reduce the speed in that area significantly? Yes!

The key to making the sorts of areas being discussed safe is to reduce the speed, not to simply stick up ineffective signs!

And there are a number of areas already (as you pointed out earlier) where the traffic calming is in place and is effective, even though the 'limit' is unchanged - still 30. These self-policing areas are the most effective at reducing the speeds in the vulnerable areas!

I'm not saying having/reducing limits doesn't work elsewhere. with Variable Speed Zones on motorways, putting up 'signs' of the limit does indeed have a significant effect on the speeds.

 

[guest100718]

The fact that after your reply she then asked her mother say quite a bit!

yes i drive everywhere at 100mph and if the roads are busy i drive on the pavement.

 

[MegaSteve]

Gosh... Tried reading thru' from where I left off... But have given up as thread seems to have gone a bit pear shaped...

I doff my cap to LiverpoolPhil though seems to have enticed majority of the mods coven away from their cauldron to provide a response to one statement or another... Don't think that happens very often....

Judging by this thread feel NigelF is missing a trick by not adding high speed motoring in residential areas to his manifesto... Seems to go hand in hand with his support of hand gun ownership....

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Don't tell me LP is still trying to say that there is no excuse for exceeding a speed limit - whilst he seems to be surrounded by drivers who regularly exceed the speed limit without killing anyone. But because they are all considerate and careful drivers that's OK to do so.

Besides (and I bet we've been in comparison land in a BIG way on this one) - speeding isn't the main or only reason for accidents, deaths and injuries on the roads - so unless you legislate for all these other causes then you shouldn't be so hard on speeding drivers or legislate further or implement restrictions on speed and speeding.

See - as soon as you get into comparison land you are lost and will end up going around in circles (as I have found). Those that see speeding as OK in their judgement will find lots of other reasons why they should be allowed to speed, and why further restrictions are silly, unfair and indeed 'a bad thing' - and all because - by comparison - speeding is no worse or riskier than...

 

[MadAdey]

I think you did and still have, though it may only be a wording thing - or I may not be getting my message across well (as LPP can't seem to see the difference either).

Your 6 factors may be close, but you don't mention 'speed' without it being associated with 'limit', My assertion is that 'speed' is the important thing and 'limit' is a tool, but otherwise irrelevant. And in this reply, I'll only deal with the speed factor - as that's what is promarily relevant to this thread.

I'll try a different tack.

Would it matter what the limit was if the speeds were (reduced to) the appropriate level? No.

Does simply placing a limit on an area reduce the speed significantly? No!

Do traffic calming measures reduce the speed in that area significantly? Yes!

The key to making the sorts of areas being discussed safe is to reduce the speed, not to simply stick up ineffective signs!

And there are a number of areas already (as you pointed out earlier) where the traffic calming is in place and is effective, even though the 'limit' is unchanged - still 30. These self-policing areas are the most effective at reducing the speeds in the vulnerable areas!

I'm not saying having/reducing limits doesn't work elsewhere. with Variable Speed Zones on motorways, putting up 'signs' of the limit does indeed have a significant effect on the speeds.

I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet, even if we are singing in a different key.............

When I said about the 6 things in my post I probably did not make it clear that traffic calming measures need to be used in conjunction with dropping the speed limits in urban areas. People will always ignore speed limits but like you have said putting in traffic calming measures is what slows them down. One thing on it's own will not have an impact, but when you combine them then that does have an overall impact IMO.

I'm not getting on my high horse because I am as guilty as most of driving down the M1 at 90MPH and treating A-class roads like a race track. But one thing I always mind is my speed in urban areas, a lot of the time I find myself driving under the limit, much to the annoyance of other drivers.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

btw - courts told my Mrs that doing 40mph in a 30mph area is viewed by courts as being a much more serious offence than doing 100mph on a motorway.

 

[MadAdey]

btw - courts told my Mrs that doing 40mph in a 30mph area is viewed by courts as being a much more serious offence than doing 100mph on a motorway.

I have heard that also before. they see you driving at 40 in a 30 as a danger to children and you will kill someone doing those speeds if you hit them. 100MPH on a motorway, if your in a pile up at 70 your going to lucky to walk away anyway.