Speeding in a thirty limit

[stevie_r]

So you dont think because people see the limit is 70 - push it by going to 80

Those same people who see the limit is now 80 - can see that the police give them 10 mph will suddenly start doing 90 ?

People seem ok to go past the speed limit to go to 80-85 - so why wouldnt they do the same if the limit was raised ?

If I feel the conditions are suitable then I will do 80 - 85, if you raise the limit to 85 mph it wouldn't mean I would increase my speed, I'm not going to decide that I must be doing 10 - 15 over that limit for the sake of it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If I feel the conditions are suitable then I will do 80 - 85, if you raise the limit to 85 mph it wouldn't mean I would increase my speed, I'm not going to decide that I must be doing 10 - 15 over that limit for the sake of it.

And exactly what conditions do you feel are suitable for you to ignore the speed limit ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

So you dont think because people see the limit is 70 - push it by going to 80

Those same people who see the limit is now 80 - can see that the police give them 10 mph will suddenly start doing 90 ?

People seem ok to go past the speed limit to go to 80-85 - so why wouldnt they do the same if the limit was raised ?

Or maybe people feel pretty safe travelling at 80. I travel faster on the motorway when I'm driving my car than I do when I'm driving my van as much better breaks. It's called using common sense.
You stick a bad driver behind the wheel of a car it doesn't matter if they're doing 70 or 80.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Or maybe people feel pretty safe travelling at 80. I travel faster on the motorway when I'm driving my car than I do when I'm driving my van as much better breaks. It's called using common sense.
You stick a bad driver behind the wheel of a car it doesn't matter if they're doing 70 or 80.

Faster than 70 mph ?

 

[brendy]

More deaths occur in rural roads because of the magic hour - the reduced chance to get people to emergency services within that first hour

There is no doubt that rural roads are more dangerous

Noone mentioned deaths alone though Phil, incidents are the subject full stop. Wing mirrors getting clipped to full on collisions.

 

[chris661]

And exactly what conditions do you feel are suitable for you to ignore the speed limit ?

:rofl:

Really need a banging head against the wall smilie

 

[Pin-seeker]

Faster than 70 mph ?

Yeah,I regularly do around 75-80mph depending on conditions.
I travel on the M1 most days in my van and I'd say I average 60mph.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Noone mentioned deaths alone though Phil, incidents are the subject full stop. Wing mirrors getting clipped to full on collisions.

I know no one mentioned deaths alone

 

[stevie_r]

And exactly what conditions do you feel are suitable for you to ignore the speed limit ?

Good visibility, dry surface, traffic not too heavy.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

:rofl:

Really need a banging head against the wall smilie

im not sure whats funny

Lets be honest here but people are deciding themselves when they believe conditions are "suitable" to go past the speed limit

Im sorry but its not up to them to decide. Its not up to them think "ah feck it - roads seems ok ill just motor on past 70 and do 85 - should be ok " . That isnt their choice to make.

You can laugh all you want

But i would hope that people making that choice would get caught and handed the appropiate punishment.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Good visibility, dry surface, traffic not too heavy.

Other users on the road ?

Is it really suitable when there are other users on the road ?

 

[stevie_r]

im not sure whats funny

Lets be honest here but people are deciding themselves when they believe conditions are "suitable" to go past the speed limit

Im sorry but its not up to them to decide. Its not up to them think "ah feck it - roads seems ok ill just motor on past 70 and do 85 - should be ok " . That isnt their choice to make.

You can laugh all you want

But i would hope that people making that choice would get caught and handed the appropiate punishment.

You are wrong, it is my decision to make and I do. If I do get caught then fair enough I'll take the punishment without crying about it.

 

[stevie_r]

Other users on the road ?

Is it really suitable when there are other users on the road ?

Yes, I believe it is.

 

[Ethan]

More deaths occur in rural roads because of the magic hour - the reduced chance to get people to emergency services within that first hour

There is no doubt that rural roads are more dangerous

The underlying accident rate is also higher.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You are wrong, it is my decision to make and I do. If I do get caught then fair enough I'll take the punishment without crying about it.

And what happens if your decision hurts someone else on the road because remember its not just your road - when you make these choices it also effects other people.

You have a blow out at 85 and pile into someone - do you then say " it was my decision to make"

 

[PhilTheFragger]

if its clear on the Mway, I set the cruise control to 80, if its congested I dont use CC and keep up with the flow

does that make me a bad person?

If I have a blowout im screwed whether im doing 70 or 80

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The underlying accident rate is also higher.

it is - no argument there

 

[Deleted member 15344]

if its clear on the Mway, I set the cruise control to 80, if its congested I dont use CC and keep up with the flow

does that make me a bad person?

Thats up to you to decide.

 

[stevie_r]

And what happens if your decision hurts someone else on the road because remember its not just your road - when you make these choices it also effects other people.

You have a blow out at 85 and pile into someone - do you then say " it was my decision to make"

So how do you feel about the high numbers of incompetent drivers who drive well below the limit but are probably more of a risk, because as has been pointed out to you a mind numbingly boring number of times now, speed on its own is not a killer.

What happens if I have a blowout at 69 and plough into someone

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So how do you feel about the high numbers of incompetent drivers who drive well below the limit but are probably more of a risk, because as has been pointed out to you a mind numbingly boring number of times now, speed on its own is not a killer.

What happens if I have a blowout at 69 and plough into someone

What about them - i dont believe i have excused them of anything or suggested they arent a problem - they are

I have agreed that people who drive well below the speed limit can cause problems a number of times now. Is that an excuse for you or others to speed ?

If you have a blowout at 69 and plough into someone then you at least know you were driving within the laws of this country.