Someone explane please

[clubchamp07]

White tee's = sss 72 (competition tee)
Green tee's = sss 70
Lenth of course difference is 214 yards.
Does this mean 1 maybe 2 of the par 5's become par 4's
Same course, all be it slightly shorter. Still same teeing ground, apart from 3/4 tee's.
The Par from both tee's is 72, but the CSS and SSS is different. Off the white tee's 36 pts is normally par. Off the green tee's 38 pts is par.
Can some one explaine to me why this is?

I hope I have asked the question correctly

 

[DCB]

Aye, you've explained it correctly. It's all to do with the way the measured course(s) is(are) rated by the local Golf Union.

 

[CliveW]

The CONGU website explains... http://www.congu.com/template2.asp?pid=32&parent=32

 

[thecraw]

Basically its because the CSS system doesn't work. Its designed to help the higher handicapper and penalise the low handicap player.

 

[clubchamp07]

Am I right in thinking that when off the green tee's, 1 or maybe 2 of the par 5's should become par 4's?

 

[clubchamp07]

The CONGU website explains... http://www.congu.com/template2.asp?pid=32&parent=32

Confused. I think I understand.
I see, so the way they get round that buy the looks of it, is by being a shorter course but still the same par, their saying that it's the same hole/'s but shorter. But, why is there 2 shots difference in SSS/CSS while playing a shorter course. only from the same teeing ground?

F*** I'm lost lol

 

[Twire]

The course is perceived to be 2 shots easier for a scratch golfer off your green tee's. That could be a couple of par 4's now being drivable, par 5's now easily reached in 2 and so on.

We have the same situation our course is a par 70 but it's SSS 71 off whites and SSS 69 of winter yellows. With only about 300 yards difference.

 

[HRC99]

Basically its because the CSS system doesn't work. Its designed to help the higher handicapper and penalise the low handicap player.

Why is that?

 

[Parmo]

Basically its because the CSS system doesn't work. Its designed to help the higher handicapper and penalise the low handicap player.

Why is that?

It's because craw resents giving people shots, the usual crap from cat 1 or wonnabes players.

The handicap system works.

 

[clubchamp07]

I'm not talking about handicap here, I'm asking, why because the course is 200 yrds shorter does it give us par 2 less?

 

[The_LHC]

Because for a scratch golfer the course is considered to be two shots easier. As someone else said, either a couple of par 5s become reachable in two or a par 4 or two is driveable from the tee. This is for scratch players you understand, I drove a par 4 the other day, three-putted for a par, marvellous...

 

[Fyldewhite]

It's got knob all to do with par. SSS is the score a scratch golfer is expected to get. So the said scratch player would take a couple of shots more to get round the longer white course. It's perfectly simple, it does make courses of differing difficulty more equitable and as above, the handicap system does actually work pretty well.

 

[Ethan]

SSS is calculated partly on distance. A par 72 course with a bunch of par-4s of 300yards is, all other things being the same, easier than the same course with all 400 yard par-4s.

SSS is not applied to individual holes, it simply suggests that you should beat net par by whatever margin it is, and the margin is larger for easier and shorter courses.

 

[Farneyman]

It's because craw resents giving people shots, the usual crap from cat 1 or wonnabes players.

Having played a few rounds with thecraw I can safely say he does not mind giving shots to high handicappers, its handing over the cash that sticks in his craw!