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He is a breath of fresh air if you ask me. Similar to speith how he approaches things mentally.

love how unique he is and he's got to win a major in the future. Definitely capable of breaking into the top 10 in a couple of years or so.
 

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You'd think with the Shaft lengths identical that his gapping between clubs would be Very tight, I can't see It though otherwise surely he wouldn't do it.

Maybe shaft length isn't so much of a factor distance wise as we think, the fact that his driver is only 43" would also suggest this.
 

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You'd think with the Shaft lengths identical that his gapping between clubs would be Very tight, I can't see It though otherwise surely he wouldn't do it.

Maybe shaft length isn't so much of a factor distance wise as we think, the fact that his driver is only 43" would also suggest this.

I read somewhere that he has 5° of loft difference between the individual irons, so about a degree more than in most standard iron sets. I guess that makes up for the effect that normally the difference in shaft length would have.
 

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I wanted to like him, the way he dresses and how he's a break from the norm. I like the idea of the same length clubs and the fact he's more than a little eccentric.

This however all fell flat on its face when earlier in the year on the when he was with Rory and Andy Sullivan in Eastern swing. Sullivan hits a bad drive into the bushes, everyone is looking for this ball, Rory, JP, spectators, officials etc. Where do we find Mr wonder kids Bryson? Stood with his caddy over his ball not bothering to help look for the ball. Now I know a lot will say there were loads helping, well those 2 might have been the extra 2 Andy needed there to find his ball in time. Etiquette certainly needs work, he's been through the US am system so he's been trained to talk to the press to give the correct image, but to not help a fellow player this early I to your career is more of an indication of his character than anything else.
 

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Fair play to the man, he's proved he can mix it with the big boys, i hope he does well.

After his first win will we see his irons on the shelves at our local outlets ?
 

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I like the hat... always been a big Payne Stewart fan so like the tribute. I have actually got a few as my wife likes me in them.

So his clubs are all about 7 iron length (for him, think hes quite tall) but he also has ultra fat grips and holds the club right through his palm not through his fingers like Moe Norman (another guy I love). Each iron head is the same weight and that is the tricky part. His Adel irons have changed from when I was first following him and I have spotted some metal disks in the back, toe of the clubs, perhaps these are weights. His explanation is that he has one spine angle for every iron/wedge swing so his PW practice is the same as his 4 Iron swing.

Tom Wishon has made and is selling single length/weight iron sets now, you can read about them and chat to Tom on WRX. For sure the loft gaps are larger but its worth noting that Bryson is also a strong player. Single length are not going to be the way to go for most.

The swing looks odd as its a true one plane swing set up with that very different gripping of the club.
 

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I believe they are all 6 iron length :D

Yes, indeed, they are. But I think that has a lot to do with Bryson's personal prefrerence, he is standing very upright. I think it should be possible to build a similar set with 7 or even 8 iron length, especially if you don't go down further than 5 iron and then put in hybrids for the longer ones.
 

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It's an interesting one (hope you are on a decent commission). I'd set mine to 8 iron length I think. If he goes to Cobra, as has been suggested and would make a load of sense when you look at his image, then a mainstream set can not be far behind.

nah no commission, but unfortunately you can't just go choosing any head you like as they have to be the same weight through out like Alex1975 has already pointed out. Will it become mainstream? Depends if there's a call for them and also the look of them to cater for individuals.
 

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as to his character, Bryson, is a good guy - the cap goes back to his love of Hogan and then PS

he's very much an 'individual' developed his unique take on the game through being a physic major and interest in 'the golfing machine' - homer kelley

the irons made by edel to compliment his take on the game - the shafts long irons through to and including wedges are all x-stiff (kbs c-taper S+) and approximately 7i length, 69º lie angles, with the specialist unique clubhead weights & clubhead lengths - heel to toe (long iron heads longer than the mid irons which in turn are longer than the short irons/wedges) through the set to allow the swing to work - swingweight is around C8 (it's often reported that the clubhead weights are uniform - having spoken to Bryson a bunch of times can say this is not true - and having hit the 6i and 8i and would say most normal folks would just hit them very low and very rightfield - they would find them to be unplayable)

- the weights through the set differ, the longer irons bunch heavier than standard
- the gaps between the long irons are start with 5º difference between 20 & 30º, the middle irons are 4º gaps between 30 & 50º and the short irons/wedges go back to 5º gaps between 50 & 60º

what's key to the irons working with the lie and swing plane and single length shafts is the difference in clubhead weighting the weight really is key as Bryson's swing works because it's based on a model of physics - to create a similar strike 'force' through impact the 'force' being 'mass' times acceleration squared - so a very strong athletic player (Bryson) able to swing a shorter heavier head as fast as they would swing a lighter longer head would still get the 'gapping' needed through a set

Bryson can make it work given his arm/hand strength and crucial the speed he is able to move his core body sequence as the lie and grip thickness and hand hold in the palms means there is virtually no wrist set taking place or being used through the swing motion - so although he does still get clubhead speed the distance is being produced through force of impact through the mass - weight of the clubheads times the acceleration squared - which is a bunch different to the way nearly all other folks produce distance through impact
 

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as to his character, Bryson, is a good guy - the cap goes back to his love of Hogan and then PS

he's very much an 'individual' developed his unique take on the game through being a physic major and interest in 'the golfing machine' - homer kelley

the irons made by edel to compliment his take on the game - the shafts long irons through to and including wedges are all x-stiff (kbs c-taper S+) and approximately 7i length, 69º lie angles, with the specialist unique clubhead weights & clubhead lengths - heel to toe (long iron heads longer than the mid irons which in turn are longer than the short irons/wedges) through the set to allow the swing to work - swingweight is around C8 (it's often reported that the clubhead weights are uniform - having spoken to Bryson a bunch of times can say this is not true - and having hit the 6i and 8i and would say most normal folks would just hit them very low and very rightfield - they would find them to be unplayable)

- the weights through the set differ, the longer irons bunch heavier than standard
- the gaps between the long irons are start with 5º difference between 20 & 30º, the middle irons are 4º gaps between 30 & 50º and the short irons/wedges go back to 5º gaps between 50 & 60º

what's key to the irons working with the lie and swing plane and single length shafts is the difference in clubhead weighting the weight really is key as Bryson's swing works because it's based on a model of physics - to create a similar strike 'force' through impact the 'force' being 'mass' times acceleration squared - so a very strong athletic player (Bryson) able to swing a shorter heavier head as fast as they would swing a lighter longer head would still get the 'gapping' needed through a set

Bryson can make it work given his arm/hand strength and crucial the speed he is able to move his core body sequence as the lie and grip thickness and hand hold in the palms means there is virtually no wrist set taking place or being used through the swing motion - so although he does still get clubhead speed the distance is being produced through force of impact through the mass - weight of the clubheads times the acceleration squared - which is a bunch different to the way nearly all other folks produce distance through impact


Thanks for explaining all That Coach, interesting Stuff :thup:

How far do you think he can go in the Game?
 

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think he has the drive, ambition, mental strength and individual talent and application to make the move to the Pro ranks - there's a whole bunch of talented folks already there so how that all converts to 'wins' remains to be seen would expect him to be up there once he gets acclimatized - acquitted himself over the weekend pretty good on one of the toughest tracks that there is .....
and already as an am has achieved what only a couple of folks have done before him

certainly has the heart and belief
 
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