Foxholer
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Not for the same reasons.
It is subjective. The clock is only useful if the time is relative to something else. Nobody thinks they are slow. Everyone plays at a pace at which they are comfortable. But the faster golfers adopt a condescending view that their perspective is the 'correct' one, and others, being slower are incorrect and a problem.
Anyway, you were missing my point - that it isnt as such the time it takes to play a round that governs people's views of slow play by those ahead of them - its whether they were waiting or not.
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A wonderful idea if only golf was the only thing people had to do on any given day.
bobmac
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Ok so what other reasons do the faster runners start in front of the slower runners?
Bratty
Princess Pouty (Queen of Fish Lips)
I hope you replied, "well, you were over 600 yards behind the group in front, which is a hell of a longer way than 180!"... ?
Foxholer
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Safety and fairness are 2.
And FWIW, a marathon IS a race. A round of Golf IS NOT a race. Though that doesn't mean 'slow play' should be tolerated.
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bobmac
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Because the slower runners might hold them up?
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
I don’t think slow play damages scores as such, but if you can manage your frustrations and routine during slow play it’s defo a strength.
Foxholer
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That too, but that was neither your question, nor (or at least shouldn't be) a reason in Golf.
bobmac
Major Champion
I'm done
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
We have a number of habitual dawdlers within our roll up groups, hence a direct consequence on the pace of play for the people I play with. We have tried politeness, directness and everything between but as some have said, skin of a rhino and to no avail. They are slow in comps as well which has a greater effect on the whole field and I know some have written in but the club seem to bury their collective heads. In general terms, most members consider 4 hours to be an acceptable length of time and in most cases including comps we achieve that give or ten five or ten minutes either way. Is there really any way we are going to change such ingrained habits?
bobmac
Major Champion
Yes, change the tee booking system so the dawdlers go off last
Will you volunteer in your club to classify the dawdlers/nondawdlers, inform each which category they are in, and the restricted time slots now available to them ?
bobmac
Major Champion
As I said before, every club knows who the slow players are.
It's not difficult to put them off later
It's not difficult to put them off later
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Totally unworkable
Foxholer
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Having had the time to check the above, I notice, from the summary, that the results only relate to 'time adddressing the ball' - even though pre shot routine was timed as well! So not a complete summary! I'd like to know why that measurement was excluded, though suspect (it was because) there was no corellation!
And FWIW, it didn't take long for the thread to morph into a discussion of slow play rather than the study!
bobmac
Major Champion
If they could send men to the moon over 50 years ago, I'm sure Ascot can amend their tee booking system.
No members are more important than the club.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
What if members don't consider themselves to be slow
bobmac
Major Champion
See post no. 54
Foxholer
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I'm as certain as I can be that those responsible, for the 2 tasks identified above, are not the same folk!
