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Doon frae Troon said:
Hope you have a site lined up at Ipswich for Mr Trident

Btw......you forgot the Type 26 frigates being canceled.
Remember the ones that Cameron said would only be built on the Clyde if we voted No.
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Us in Ipswich lived for decades with US Nukes stockpiled at Bentwaters for decades. Our missiles are safely stowed aboard the subs the majority of the time, so you have nothing to worry about. I thought you would have been overjoyed at the investment and employment created in Scotland with the building and upkeep of the new subs. I would welcome all of that to Ipswich given the chance.
 
I heard a Faslane shopkeeper say on the news the other day how vital the base is to the local economy. If they scrap it would you claim that as another Tory nail in the Scottish coffin? :whistle:
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Things have change a tad in the last couple of years, even weeks ...........or have you forgotten what happened a couple of weeks ago.;)
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So if you're an SNP MP and things change then you are allowed to change your mind. But that rule is only for the SNP and if you are from a Westminster party then that's not allowed. OK, I've got it, you're a hypocrite.
 
ColchesterFC said:
So if you're an SNP MP and things change then you are allowed to change your mind. But that rule is only for the SNP and if you are from a Westminster party then that's not allowed. OK, I've got it, you're a hypocrite.
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Did you not consider that taking Scotland out of Europe would be a bit of a game changer.
Basically the folk who voted Brexit also voted for the break up of the UK.......some even knowingly.:lol:
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Did you not consider that taking Scotland out of Europe would be a bit of a game changer.
Basically the folk who voted Brexit also voted for the break up of the UK.......some even knowingly.:lol:
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Sorry but I can't remember voting for the break up of the U.K. ? When was that vote ?
 
As Theresa May said today, it was only 2 years ago the SNP were advocating the breakup or the Union, thereby taking Scotland out of eu. What's changed that the SNP now see remaining in the eu the number 1 priority.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Did you not consider that taking Scotland out of Europe would be a bit of a game changer.
Basically the folk who voted Brexit also voted for the break up of the UK.......some even knowingly.:lol:
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Yep, you're a hypocrite. As you rightly say, things change and therefore opinions and positions can change but you only accept that from the SNP and not from Westminster politicians. It's a wonder that you're even able to stand up with the weight of all those chips on your shoulders weighing you down. Do you have to make sure you have an equal amount on each shoulder so you don't topple over?

I'll type this slowly to see if that helps you to understand.......

Two years ago Scotland voted to remain as part of the UK. This year the UK voted to leave the EU. This wasn't about an English vote, a Scottish vote or a Welsh vote. It was a UK vote.

Sometimes things go for you and sometimes things go against you. Just because the result didn't go the way the Scottish wanted the SNP have had a childish tantrum and have thrown all their toys out of the pram. I can only assume that if they are successful in getting independence and joining the EU they will use the same tactics every time a decision made by the EU goes against them.
 
Every PMQs, Angus Robertson stands up and makes himself look even more ridiculous (OK so I know that's probably impossible) and asks a couple of pathetic childish questions about Scotland's independence. Him, Mrs Krankie and Salmond just come across as petulant little kids every time they open their mouths. Go and have your tantrums in private please. You lost twice and now no-one else cares.
 
The brexit vote was actually the perfect result for the SNP. The one they dreamed about.

Now they spin it to further their nationalist agenda and they are expert at that. They are every bit as dishonest as the brexiters.

If Westminster are spending billions replacing trident without seriously thinking about where to base it post-indyref2 then they are as naive as the leave campaign were.
 
Why would there be an "indyref2"?

In the eyes of Westminster, who would have to approve such an event, nothing has changed.

Oh I know Ms Sturgeon may want one, as and when she feels certain of winning, but that does not mean a further vote will be sanctioned.
 
MetalMickie said:
Why would there be an "indyref2"?

In the eyes of Westminster, who would have to approve such an event, nothing has changed.

Oh I know Ms Sturgeon may want one, as and when she feels certain of winning, but that does not mean a further vote will be sanctioned.
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I'm against it but I don't doubt there will be one. It just seems inevitable in the current political climate. Simply put, Westminster will not be able to ignore the clamour once the nats declare they have exhausted all other options to keep Scotland in the eu and start pushing for it. That will be sometime next year, I predict.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Something significant will have to change then. Cruella seems pretty adamantly and clearly against it.
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Something has changed and the nationalists are simply biding their time so they can claim indyref2 is the last resort, as opposed to their real goal all along. Once they start to push for it there will be no way to stop it happening. It's only a matter of when, not if IMO.
 
FairwayDodger said:
Something has changed and the nationalists are simply biding their time so they can claim indyref2 is the last resort, as opposed to their real goal all along. Once they start to push for it there will be no way to stop it happening. It's only a matter of when, not if IMO.
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But what trump cards do the SNP hold that could force the Westminster Gov't to grant a further referendum?
 
No trump card only a joker.

It's all hot air and posturing IMO, I don't know exactly what the SNP are after but I expect it's Devo Max.

Nicola says She has a Mandate from the Scottish people to keep Scotland in the EU. That's rubbish! The EU Referendum was a vote by the UK and Scotland voted recently to stay in the UK, it's absolute hogwash for her to say she has a mandate.

Regarding Indy2. The last referendum was clearly a once in a generation vote and IMO Westminster will keep it at that. Anyhow, does Scotland really want independence from the UK and throw it's lot in with the EU who are not keen on the arrangement anyway. The UK is Scotland's biggest trading partner by far, the EU is it's smallest, if people in Scotland think Brexit was a mistake then leaving the UK would be a very big mistake. Then there is Scotland's deficit to consider, who will bail that out if they leave, the EU would be imposing Austerity on a scale that would make the Conservatives look like spendthrifts.

Forget it, it isn't going to happen.
 
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Doon frae Troon said:
They do not need any, I do not think it is Westminster's 'gift'.
Westminster MP's [and the usual suspects on here] seem to be totally our of touch with the mood in Scotland since Brexit.
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Well unless you are suggesting UDI similar to Rhodesia in the 60's I am afraid the decision does lie with Westminster.

Brexit is a red herring, after all, 62% of only 67% of the Scottish electorate voted to Remain which is 41.5% of the total and no more a ringing endorsement to Remain than is the 39% of the English electorate who voted to Leave.

But then politicians of all hues will always capitalise upon the public's indifference to maintain they "have an overwhelming mandate!"
 
MetalMickie said:
Well unless you are suggesting UDI similar to Rhodesia in the 60's I am afraid the decision does lie with Westminster.

Brexit is a red herring, after all, 62% of only 67% of the Scottish electorate voted to Remain which is 41.5% of the total and no more a ringing endorsement to Remain than is the 39% of the English electorate who voted to Leave.

But then politicians of all hues will always capitalise upon the public's indifference to maintain they "have an overwhelming mandate!"
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As I said a moment ago.....some folk seem to be totally out of touch with the mood in Scotland.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
As I said a moment ago.....some folk seem to be totally out of touch with the mood in Scotland.
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So are you now suggesting that all those Scots who did not bother voting are pro-indy and Remainers?

Even by your standards that would seem to be a pretty outrageous assumption. Or have you again been reading that paragon of balance Wings Over Scotland.
 
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