Course Management – What’s it to you?

I would say its considering 2 or more options for each shot, whether that be club, target or type of shot, choosing the best one and committing to it. After the shot review and hopefully you'd choose the same next time.
In fact it covers everything which isn't the physical act of playing the shot.
 
Course Management is a broad term that, as the 20 previous posts show, means a lot of things to different people. Whether that be a simple as not compounding an error with another, laying up to take hazards out of play or positioning the ball to give the best line in.

For me it is understanding the best strategy to get the ball in the hole on any given day based on how I am swinging/feeling and the conditions at large. Sometimes that strategy might change from round to round, even though I'm teeing off from virtually the same place and the pin might be only 20ft away from where it was yesterday. Sometimes i might turn up and find that I'm playing with a fade that borders on a slice....instead of trying to fix it on course which invariably leads to issues, I just play with it, compensating aim or chosen lines as necessary, or, choose a club where the issue is less magnified.

Basically, it's considering any factor that might affect where my ball ends up after the next shot. A balance of considering my ability to execute any given shot, (over) confidence, my attitude towards risk/reward, consideration of the general weather and course conditions and an understanding of the nuances of the golf course I am playing, knowing where is a safe miss or knowing where there is a little feature that might help guide my ball back to an ideal position if I slightly miss my desired line (or deliberately aim at said feature!!)

Some aspects of course management can only be based on local knowledge....I'm sure we've all played a course for the first time and said..."oh i wouldnt have aimed there if I knew that was there" or "I'd play that hole differently if I came again"....its all course management.
 
This sort of situation is interesting to me. Strokes gained / DECADE etc always say that laying up to a full wedge shot is a myth and that you always get closer from nearer the green. But I'm inclined to agree with you on that one, sometimes a full shot from 100-ish yards does feel easier to hold a tricky green than a 60 yard pitch, say. Our 18th is a pain for this, I never know the best way to play it and hardly ever make par as a result (not getting a shot either so not making par is annoying). I don't hit driver anyway because there are trees all down the right and the hole is only 275 anyway. The green is elevated but runs away to the back of it, so I don't like having a 70-yard ish shot either, as that to me is a pitch shot with PW, which means it's running all the way to the back every time. So I've fluctuated between hitting 7W and hybrid to try and leave 100-ish. But then if I don't hit that tee shot great I might leave myself a full PW and then you can still miss the green completely from that sort of range. Does my head in to be honest. :LOL: I think I need to learn how to hit a full swing 60° and see if that does the job from 70 yards instead of the pitch shot!

I’m similar to you in that I am not a fan of 50-80 yard range, those little half shots are little buggars and for whatever reason I have more confidence of hitting a “better” shot with say a full PW so would be more likely to lay up to 120 yards.

70 yards with a PW is almost a bit of a bump and run, I doubt you’ll get the descent angle or a good enough strike at your (and my) ability to get enough spin to put a good amount of check on the ball.

I’ve now got a pretty good 75 yard shot in me, 56 degree and just really narrow my stance to reduce how powerful the swing is.
 
I’m similar to you in that I am not a fan of 50-80 yard range, those little half shots are little buggars and for whatever reason I have more confidence of hitting a “better” shot with say a full PW so would be more likely to lay up to 120 yards.

70 yards with a PW is almost a bit of a bump and run, I doubt you’ll get the descent angle or a good enough strike at your (and my) ability to get enough spin to put a good amount of check on the ball.

I’ve now got a pretty good 75 yard shot in me, 56 degree and just really narrow my stance to reduce how powerful the swing is.
Yeah, that's exactly it - I don't hate 50-80 yards generally, but my shots in that range are all half-swing pitches. So on a green that slopes away to the back, my 70 yard half-swing PW for example is pretty useless as it'll just run off the back every time. And as the green on our 18th is elevated too, it means I can't land it short either.

I might have to actually start hitting a full-ish shot with 60° which is something I never normally do. In theory that should go about 65-70 yards if I hit it properly. Or, knifed 130 yards into the car park. We shall see. 😬
 
Be realistic in what I can achieve. If it’s a tight pin, play away from it. If there’s water at 230, lay up. There’s always another hole to pick up a shot, until you walk off the last green.

Remember we do it for fun. Learn to laugh at yourself - you’ll get plenty of opportunities.
 
Course management once upon a time for me would’ve meant a million different thoughts, swing, game, course, scoring etc etc.
Nowadays it’s staying chilled out, good shot or bad shot it’s better than being at work and to be honest just appreciating still being in good health to be hitting a ball.
Plenty poor souls lying in a hospital bed somewhere wishing they were strolling down a fairway.
 
For me it's playing the correct shot for my game, not necessarily what would be standard. In practice it's accepting when I can't reach a green in regulation and making sure my layup is a good one. Leave myself a nice chip or pitch rather than duff a hero shot.

I see many pp over reach themselves and fail. My shorter length means I've come to accept I need to plot my way around a little more. That acceptance has made a big difference to my consistency.
Me and a PP were having this exact same conversation on Tuesday. He had 17 shots,me 20. The general idea, use our shots and look to have a chip onto a green with the third shot on a par four. His driving was excellent and he hit 13 out of fourteen fairways, straight down the middle. He came off with 24 points. Course management is fine until it comes to a poor shot selection. He is the guy who I mentioned the other day that uses an elevated fairway mat in winter for his driver on the fairway. He used it/ driver half a dozen times off the fairway and hit 2 decent shots. He was gutted with his score.
Me I was sloppy on the front nine for 14 points and scored 18 on the back, enough to joint win. Basically plotting my way round.
 
Always try to put the result of this stroke into the best position for my next stroke. For example, if I can't reach the green on a long par 4 with my second shot, leave it short enough that greenside bunkers aren't in play. Always think about the next shot, not just the one I'm hitting now.
Someone above mentioned "plotting around the course", I guess that's what I'm doing as well. Develop a great short game!
 
Yeah, that's exactly it - I don't hate 50-80 yards generally, but my shots in that range are all half-swing pitches. So on a green that slopes away to the back, my 70 yard half-swing PW for example is pretty useless as it'll just run off the back every time. And as the green on our 18th is elevated too, it means I can't land it short either.

I might have to actually start hitting a full-ish shot with 60° which is something I never normally do. In theory that should go about 65-70 yards if I hit it properly. Or, knifed 130 yards into the car park. We shall see. 😬

It is good to be able to hit different types of shot with the same club
 
For me it's knowing that my second shot on par 4 and 5 holes rarely hits the green, accepting this and aiming to leave it short, on the fairway, giving myself a chip and an opportunity for a par putt. It's how all my best rounds have been achieved.

In reality though I find that boring; adrenaline and ego get the better of me, I go for the green and at least 50% of the time find myself playing my third shot from some kind of trouble.
 
I’m similar to you in that I am not a fan of 50-80 yard range, those little half shots are little buggars and for whatever reason I have more confidence of hitting a “better” shot with say a full PW so would be more likely to lay up to 120 yards.

70 yards with a PW is almost a bit of a bump and run, I doubt you’ll get the descent angle or a good enough strike at your (and my) ability to get enough spin to put a good amount of check on the ball.

I’ve now got a pretty good 75 yard shot in me, 56 degree and just really narrow my stance to reduce how powerful the swing is.
As long as it's dry and not uphill, I've discovered this summer that 50 to 80 yards is putting range. I'm significantly more likely to get the ball on or near the green than if I bump and run or try a half-swing pitch.
 
My short chipping and bunker play was quite decent.
On occasions I would aim to miss a green or hit a bunker if I felt confident that the end result would be better than going for a difficult pin.
The Road Hole at St Andy's being an obvious example of deliberately missing a green. Some of the front bunkers at Augusta would probably give you a better par chance than a fast 30 yard downhill putt.
 
Me and a PP were having this exact same conversation on Tuesday. He had 17 shots,me 20. The general idea, use our shots and look to have a chip onto a green with the third shot on a par four. His driving was excellent and he hit 13 out of fourteen fairways, straight down the middle. He came off with 24 points. Course management is fine until it comes to a poor shot selection. He is the guy who I mentioned the other day that uses an elevated fairway mat in winter for his driver on the fairway. He used it/ driver half a dozen times off the fairway and hit 2 decent shots. He was gutted with his score.
Me I was sloppy on the front nine for 14 points and scored 18 on the back, enough to joint win. Basically plotting my way round.
Having a plan, pulling it off.......can be two different things 😄. The first part of his plan clearly worked but golf is an all round game 🤷‍♂️
 
In Tommy Armour’s book Play your best Golf his advice in this context is

Play the shot you’ve got the greatest chance of playing well, and
Play the shot that makes the next shot easy.
 
My biggest problem with course management is maintaining it through the whole round. If I'm playing well, I can be tempted to try ambitious shots, and it often ends in tears.

Example: on Monday I had 30 points after 14 holes in a stableford comp. On the 15th (SI 1) I hit a good drive then took my brain out of gear and attempted a high tariff second shot going directly for the green (which failed, of course). If I hadn't been playing well up to then, there's no way I'd have tried that shot.

So I guess for me, staying focused is the key to course management.
 
My biggest problem with course management is maintaining it through the whole round. If I'm playing well, I can be tempted to try ambitious shots, and it often ends in tears.

Example: on Monday I had 30 points after 14 holes in a stableford comp. On the 15th (SI 1) I hit a good drive then took my brain out of gear and attempted a high tariff second shot going directly for the green (which failed, of course). If I hadn't been playing well up to then, there's no way I'd have tried that shot.

So I guess for me, staying focused is the key to course management.
I sometimes go the other and play too conservatively to try and protect the good score and keep the round going. This leads to lazy swings and fats and pulls. Much better when I keep doing what I was doing to get the good score. Seems to be going ok at the moment.
 
For me it's knowing that my second shot on par 4 and 5 holes rarely hits the green, accepting this and aiming to leave it short, on the fairway, giving myself a chip and an opportunity for a par putt. It's how all my best rounds have been achieved.

In reality though I find that boring; adrenaline and ego get the better of me, I go for the green and at least 50% of the time find myself playing my third shot from some kind of trouble.
So you don't even try and hit greens in regulation?? I feel like you're holding yourself back. The strongest correlation with good scoring stats-wise is number of greens hit in regulation. I would never lay up for the sake of it, if I can reach a green I'm going for it. Would only lay up if there was trouble in the middle that I didn't think I can carry.
 
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