Serves you right Rory????

[FairwayDodger]

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I wasn't having a go at you over this, it just really winds me up when people are too lazy/ignorant/arrogant to do something as simple as shout fore. Golf balls can be so dangerous and I've been on the wrong end of a few near misses recently.

I actually agree with you. I've also been on the wrong end of some near misses - one time I went through the bloke for not shouting; I got the fright of my life.

I've also recently been stood next to someone who got hit by a ball (there was a shout this time) so I've seen the damage close up.

All that I tried to state (and I see, unbelievably, people are STILL failing to grasp this) was that, in this instance, the player misjudged the ball flight and made a mistake. Yes, he should have shouted as a precaution given how many spectators were about but he genuinely believed it wasn't going anywhere near them.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Tree lined Wentworth isn't a wide open links and from what I could see there weren't too many spectators between the tee and the injured guy.
Many people think that the pros use the gallery as a buffer and maybe with some justification as most pros do keep very quiet on the tee.

Only Rory and his "dumb" caddy know the truth in this case but maybe you have some psychic insight!!

Rory is one of the star attractions, there were a lot of people following him and a lot of people between tee and landing area. And I didn't use the word dumb, you did. I said his caddy isn't the brightest on tour.

 

[Thor]

Rory is one of the star attractions, there were a lot of people following him and a lot of people between tee and landing area. And I didn't use the word dumb, you did. I said his caddy isn't the brightest on tour.

Check out the video to see the number of fans in the area.
Sorry the caddy's not the sharpest tool in the box then.....you certainly implied that he wasn't Einstein.

 

[jdchelsea]

Of course he should have shouted fore!

You don't hear any pros shouting it anymore. I wonder if the sponsors have something do with it?! Maybe even the health and safety people. Player shouts fore, spectator ducks/trips and pulls a muscle or falls into someone else and hey presto claim city.

 

[rosecott]

Rory version:

1. Hit bad drive
2. Sulk
3. Ignore the fact that someone might be there.
4. Sulk and worry about the ball until it is found
5. Find injured spectator and sign a glove to pacify them
6. Hit shot after good lie provided from dead bounce off spectator's skull.
7. Walk on and don't give a toss.

The more I see of McIlroy, the less I like him. This is another example. He is more like Tiger than he is Seve.

His only salvation is that it clearly isn't easy as blatantly immature individual, growing up in the public eye.

Like you Snelly, my view relies entirely on what the television showed today. I certainly did not get the impression of Rory sulking. As soon as he got there he said "are you OK?" Sounds a bit daft as the guy had a bandage round his head, but could you have come up with something better? The guy was receiving medical attention so there was nothing Rory could do so he offered a bit of an apology with the signed glove and got on with the game. What would you have wanted him to do? withdraw from the Open?

 

[DaveM]

Having watched it. I think the thing that points more to his attitude, than anything. Was the fact. He was more concerned where his ball had gone first. Then the guy he hit second.

 

[Robobum]

You know the problem with this thread is the inflamatory title. Had it been, "Pro's should shout fore" I'm pretty sure we all would have responsed with yes they should. Because it has been called "Serves you right Rory" it's stirred up a storm. Well played OP, well played.

I'll title any thread I choose to start whatever I want to thanks.

The title related to that particular incident because 2minutes before I wrote the title..........I saw the thing happen live on the coverage.....pretty simple really.

As it happens, I don't hate on any player, particularly somebody as talented as Rory. Try to find a post of mine in any of the "I hate x, y or z golfer" threads! You won't

However in this incident Rory made a real error. In the 5live interview he even had a half snigger when he talked about the ball hitting the lad and causing him to have a double.

If you believe that he didn't think it was wide enough for a shout then you have little appreciation of the in depth mapping of their lines off of tees they prepare during practice, particularly as Rory was one of the 1st players on site last week!!

If Rory is in with a shout down the stretch I'll be right behind him, but if he makes a bad choice and someone gets clinked again then I'll think he's a .... for not shouting again

 

[Snelly]

Like you Snelly, my view relies entirely on what the television showed today. I certainly did not get the impression of Rory sulking. As soon as he got there he said "are you OK?" Sounds a bit daft as the guy had a bandage round his head, but could you have come up with something better? The guy was receiving medical attention so there was nothing Rory could do so he offered a bit of an apology with the signed glove and got on with the game. What would you have wanted him to do? withdraw from the Open?

What would I have wanted him to do? Shout fore. Show concern for the chap. Apologise. Behave decently. Show his good manners. Show scant regard for his ball until he had ascertained that the bloke was okay. None of which would be too much to ask in my view....

 

[JustOne]

Not THIS old chestnut again!!! This topic is worse than talking about ballflight laws!!! :blah::blah::blah:

Let me simplify things for those that think Rory is not at fault here.

1. You hit your drive
2. It is off line.
3. There may be people there - irrelevant whether it is golfers, spectators, they can can hear, they can't hear, marshalls are there, they should be aware, blind shot etc etc.
4. You call fore. If the odds are hundreds to one, you still do it. It is part of the game.
5. End of story..

How loud?

Until your lungs bleed? would that be enough?

With my sore throat I wonder if someone standing next to me might hear me!!

 

[PPE]

What would he say if he got clobbered from another fairway from another Pro?

I am a man who 3 years ago go his front teeth knocked out by a golf ball (fair enough the guy shouted FORE), but it bloody hurt!!!
I was on the 6th tee when I got hit but continued with my round even though I was still spitting out blood and teeth!!!...........well I had paid £30 for the round!!!......got a birdie on the next hole too!!

P****** me right off that the Pros dont shout FORE.

 

[Snelly]

Not THIS old chestnut again!!! This topic is worse than talking about ballflight laws!!! :blah::blah::blah:



How loud?

Until your lungs bleed? would that be enough?

With my sore throat I wonder if someone standing next to me might hear me!!

How loud? Loud enough for me to think he was making an effort to do the decent thing.

Get well soon by the way James! :thup:

 

[JustOne]

How loud? Loud enough for me to think he was making an effort to do the decent thing.

Get well soon by the way James! :thup:

Thanks Snelly .... #cough# #cough# #splutter#

Just can't see it myself... if there's 4 spectators then YES, shout, but if there's a crowd then there's really no point.

I've been on the course when the shout of "Fore" has gone up and even then you really don't know which direction the shout is coming from... or the ball, and we're talking about empty courses here... add in a few 1000 people and it's really like talking a wee into a force 10 gale.

Most of them are wearing their headphones listening to the commentary anyway!

 

[munro007]

He should have shouted fore, and people watching the ball down the line should have shouted as well. I don't think i would have been so chilled about the situation, poor wee laddie.

 

[richart]

Does a ball hitting someone in a crowd not hurt as much as one hitting a single spectator James ? When I hear fore I instinctively turn away and protect my head. (If there is time I also hide behind anyone larger than me)

 

[JustOne]

Does a ball hitting someone in a crowd not hurt as much as one hitting a single spectator James ? When I hear fore I instinctively turn away and protect my head. (If there is time I also hide behind anyone larger than me)

Do you reckon you'd hear it then?

I reckon that upon hearing "Fore" half the crowd would look UP,,,, someone'll take it in the face that way.


One day someone's going to get one full in the face from a shanked/snap hooked tee shot..... seeing people lining the teebox make me cringe.... but they still stand there.

 

[richart]

Do you reckon you'd hear it then?

My hearing is fine, I just pretend I can't hear you James. Do the same with HID as well.

I went to a Pro Celebrity tournament years back, and the spectators were lining the tee. Not a problem when the Pros were driving, but one of the celebrities hit one out of the heel and smacked a women straight on the knee. She went down faster than an extra in Platoon. A lot of spectators do seem to assume golfers hit the ball straight, and don't seem to realise the dangers.

 

[MarkHK]

Thought this was quite a nice gesture though

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...Rory-McIlroy-hits-fan-with-drive-at-Open.html

 

[MegaSteve]

As a side note disclaimer notices are not worth a jot... All you need to do is prove negligence... "At your own risk" etc etc don't mean a thing....

 

[Bobmysterkaymer]

As if people look up if someone shouts fore! My reaction would be the brace position, head down and hands on head! I'll be shouting fore today if there is a danger, the pro can tell me off whatever, safety is paramount!

 

[need_my_wedge]

Thought this was quite a nice gesture though

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...Rory-McIlroy-hits-fan-with-drive-at-Open.html

I've just read the 10 pages on here as I was going to post that link too.

I agree that everyone, especially the pro's should shout fore if they think that the ball is heading towards the crowd, no excuse there.

This is gonna fall on deaf ears now (see what I did there)) but I know for a fact from my own course that even when I've screamed fore at the top of my lungs, I've been accused of not shouting on close calls. No amount of apology carries weight if they didn't hear it because they just don't believe that you called regardless. It's a fact that sound doesn't always carry the direction that you want it to, or the people it's aimed at are not paying attention or listening out for it....

I've also, as I'm sure many of you have, hit balls down the course that look like they went to a particular point, only to find when I got there that the ball was 20 yards shorter, or even further than I thought it had flown. It's easy to misjudge direction and distance of ball flight, especially if light is dim, wind and rain around etc.

It could have been fatal........of course it could, but more likely not - chances of target hit vs impact, versus point hit etc. But it could also be from any one of the other 155 pro's playing, that is surely a risk you take when you agree to go and stand in the line of fire on a golf course. I don't buy any of the flack being dished out here that the pro should be liable. You take responsibility for yourself the minute you buy a ticket and stand in there......

Did Rory deserve it, no he didn't, it was an accident plain and simple with an unfortunate outcome. He checked the lad's well being before getting on and trying to focus on the job in hand, exactly what we'd all want to do in the same situation. There's not much more you can do in the middle of a major comp.

As for the Sun story, thankfully the lad was not seriously injured and Rory's done the decent thing and given the lad a better reward. How many of the posters on here slating him for just giving a signed glove are going to come back and post again to commend him for following up with something better?