richy
Journeyman Pro
Nah, he's southern. That's why he went down like a fairy!
Serves you right Rory????
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Nah, he's southern. That's why he went down like a fairy!
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Rory McIlroy: "I didn't shout fore, I didn't think I needed to. It's not nice to see. He said he was ok and that's the most important thing"
Rory on driving 16 green: "Driver hadn't been the play all week, but I was a little frustrated (after double bogey on 15)."
Rory on driving 16 green: "Driver hadn't been the play all week, but I was a little frustrated (after double bogey on 15)."
Its only a matter of time, probably in the US where a spectator will get injured and sue the pro, the tour and probably the sponsors as well. I think it is common sense for someone in the group (player or caddie) to shout rather than stand there mute.
As for whether he deserved to go OB then by the wayward nature of the shot then yes, whether it got there via a deflection or not. As for karma for not shouting well in the spiritual context then maybe but I guess you pay your admission and take your chance although a heads up (no pun intended) that it was heading your way would be good
As for whether he deserved to go OB then by the wayward nature of the shot then yes, whether it got there via a deflection or not. As for karma for not shouting well in the spiritual context then maybe but I guess you pay your admission and take your chance although a heads up (no pun intended) that it was heading your way would be good
sev112
Tour Winner
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
It has already been proved in law that shouting fore does not absolve the golfer of liability. Hence it's pointless. Especially from over 300 yards away. We are all relying on the guy getting hit not suing.
Neddy
Challenge Tour Pro
Pretty obvious who's fault it is whether he apologises or not tbh.
"I didn't think i needed to" is a pathetic excuse. If you hit the ball off line and think there is ANY chance of the ball hitting someone. Shout fore. You have then at least tried to warn people, even if they can't hear you.
How hard is it?
G1BB0
Money List Winner
I wouldnt mind being hit, getting a pic and a signed glove to sell on ebay, I would also then be rooting for Rory to win as it would add extra value to the glove :thup:
I am Northern btw so it would be a mere glancing blow as we are all tough as nails
I am Northern btw so it would be a mere glancing blow as we are all tough as nails
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
I think from where he was standing, with the tee offset making the hole somewhat of a dogleg and fairway partially obscured, he didn't think the shot was particularly far offline and not enough to threaten any spectators.
He should have shouted but made an understandable mistake. Lighten up.
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
Pretty sure all tickets have disclaimer and warning about the risks on them and that the tour accepts no liability. They have on any tickets I've seen.
As for the shouts. I used to think this until I was at the Irish open. Then I realised that I wouldn't have heard a shout from the tee. I was at the par 3 14th. Sound doesn't carry well 210 yards upwind. Shouts of fore would have been worthless. An indication of the shot direction by the marshalls and the pro was enough for anyone actually paying attention. If there was a shout it was the marshalls near the spectators were the shout was definately heard (and sometime the spectators shouted, great fun to join in btw).
The marshalls need to be proactive at these events and the spectators need to be aware of what the marshalls are signaling. You set up camp anywhere between 260 and 320 yards and you are in the firing line for pros tee shot. You should show some awareness and if not then on your head be it.
If anyone did successfully sue then it wouldn't be the pro that suffered bar a small, in relation to income, payout. It would be every spectator in the future. High risk area within driving distance would become no go zones roped off and spectators wouldn't be allowed anywhere as close to the fairways and greens as they are now.
I'm not jumping to the defense of Rory but a call of fore would probably have had little impact on the outcome bar the fact this thread might not exsist.
As for the shouts. I used to think this until I was at the Irish open. Then I realised that I wouldn't have heard a shout from the tee. I was at the par 3 14th. Sound doesn't carry well 210 yards upwind. Shouts of fore would have been worthless. An indication of the shot direction by the marshalls and the pro was enough for anyone actually paying attention. If there was a shout it was the marshalls near the spectators were the shout was definately heard (and sometime the spectators shouted, great fun to join in btw).
The marshalls need to be proactive at these events and the spectators need to be aware of what the marshalls are signaling. You set up camp anywhere between 260 and 320 yards and you are in the firing line for pros tee shot. You should show some awareness and if not then on your head be it.
If anyone did successfully sue then it wouldn't be the pro that suffered bar a small, in relation to income, payout. It would be every spectator in the future. High risk area within driving distance would become no go zones roped off and spectators wouldn't be allowed anywhere as close to the fairways and greens as they are now.
I'm not jumping to the defense of Rory but a call of fore would probably have had little impact on the outcome bar the fact this thread might not exsist.
jammag
Challenge Tour Pro
From whilst I understand both points of view. What I will pose the question to you all is, if it was Tiger Woods that done that today how much would opinions differ in the fact of how much people would slate him? Are we giving Rory a light ride because hes generally the nice guy as seen through the press and hes British?
D
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It may be pointless from a legal point of view but if someone has the chance to duck or turn their face away from the incoming ball it certainly isn't pointless.
EVERYONE should shout fore if there is any risk of someone being hit!
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
Nope, I call it as I see it. He misjudged how far offline it was.
Neddy
Challenge Tour Pro
Tell the guy who could lost an eye (or worse) to "lighten up".....
This isn't just about Rory. I watch pro golf every week and i very very rarely hear "fore".
Why are they allowed to get away with behaviour that most amateurs would be pilloried for?
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
So if you hit a shot that's narrowly missing the fairway you'd shout fore? You do that every time do you?
He misjudged it and made a mistake.
He misjudged it and made a mistake.
rosecott
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If I could hit the ball 300 yards (as most forummers can), I would have no idea which direction it went and wouldn't know whether to call fore left or fore right.
D
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I find it both bizarre and very worrying that there are people on here defending someone for not shouting fore.
Very simple....if there is any chance of someone being hit, you shout fore. End of!
Very simple....if there is any chance of someone being hit, you shout fore. End of!
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
And I find your stubborn refusal to understand my point rather annoying.
From Rory's perspective the ball did not appear very far offline and, therefore, he did not think there was any danger. To spell it out - he did not think there was any danger of hitting anyone. He was wrong, it was a mistake.
I am not defending anyone for not shouting fore - just recognising that, in this case, an understandable mistake was made.
GB72
Money List Winner
My concern is that the behaviour on tour spreads down to the average club golfer. Yes, you may not hear a shout of fore from the tee in a tournament like the Open but how long is it before your more impressionable weekend golfer stops shouting fore and simply points in the direction of wayward shot as a warning. Pro golfers should set an example in this and other areas.
D
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Are you genuinely naive enough to think that Rory doesn't know the layout of the hole? He will have played it several times this week, walked it, seen where the ropes are etc etc. The preparation that these top pros go through is meticulous. How can you seriously defend his decision not to shout fore when there is a chance that someone could have been seriously injured?
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Well said FD, the guy got it wrong.
He isn't the first and won't be the last to hit someone and not shot fore
