Second vote ? Why not .?

[bluewolf]

Obviously all those on here who voted to remain and have since declared that they have accepted the democratic result will vote to leave if a 2nd vote ever comes about.

Or where they telling porkies.

Nope. My mind has certainly not been changed. If anything, I'm more convinced than ever that it's a terrible move.
I voted Remain. I'd vote Remain again if the opportunity arose. I'm just not advocating a second vote.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Foul - only one binary question !!

If you have 3 options 'averaging' says it be indeterminant. so what if it was split.. third each?

I don't think it really matters. Whatever the outcome of a second referendum (if there were to be one) there would then be calls for another vote. If leave won again remainers would argue that because it was too sunny on the day of the vote many remain voters were unable to go to the polling stations as they didn't have sunglasses. And if remain won leave voters would say that it was one all and we needed a deciding third vote.

 

[Kellfire]

Obviously all those on here who voted to remain and have since declared that they have accepted the democratic result will vote to leave if a 2nd vote ever comes about.

Or where they telling porkies.

What a nonsense argument.

 

[Foxholer]

...As a representative of a country that rejected the EU...

Twaddle!

 

[Old Skier]

What a nonsense argument.

No argument from me. No politician in power will go for a second vote.

 

[Kellfire]

No argument from me. No politician in power will go for a second vote.

Agreed, I don't think it will happen. But if it were to, damn right I'd vote remain again as it's still the right option.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Agreed, I don't think it will happen. But if it were to, damn right I'd vote remain again as it's still the right option.

(Just for fun......) Oh no it isn't.

 

[MegaSteve]

(Just for fun......) Oh no it isn't.

He's behind you!

 

[Foxholer]

You voted to leave the EU - and of the UK electorate who voted you were part of the small majority. But what did you vote for in respect of the quite separate process of re-engaging with the EU once we have left?

Come to think of it - when did you actually have the opportunity to make such a vote - because I think I must have missed it as I voted in the respect of leaving or remaining in the EU - but not - that I was aware of - of how we re-engage.

And here is the entire crux of the dilemna that May has! And why Cameron and Osborne had to vacate their positions!

The vote was about whether to leave or not! It wasn't about the actual deal should the result be 'Leave'!

It is now up to the politicians and public servants to sort out the details about how we leave - how to implement the result of the referendum. Whether that involves further reference to the public (I very much doubt it will - to avoid an 'undesirable result!) or to Parliament. But it certainly provides an opportunity for Bozo to make a play for PM - something that's actually quite separate from the Brexit argument. May's position is severely restricted by the tiny majority the Conservatives got in the election - made even smaller by her (quite reasonable imo) decision to hole another election; losing the overall majority and having to do a (very dodgy!) deal to stay in power!

 

[oxymoron]

Cameron tried to negotiate with the EU and was shot down so why does anyone think things would be any different now ?
All this animosity is pathetic, why can people just accept that others will have a different view on things , no one(at this time )
can predict the future even though they are supposed experts, so i think its time to take a deep breath and start to look for the best in this situation.
It is time to negotiate not demand . Perhaps it time to put country before party\politics and get a grip there is too much at stake to start a pissing contest
in Westminster .

 

[User62651]

And here is the entire crux of the dilemna that May has! And why Cameron and Osborne had to vacate their positions!

The vote was about whether to leave or not! It wasn't about the actual deal should the result be 'Leave'!

It is now up to the politicians and public servants to sort out the details about how we leave - how to implement the result of the referendum. Whether that involves further reference to the public (I very much doubt it will - to avoid an 'undesirable result!) or to Parliament. But it certainly provides an opportunity for Bozo to make a play for PM - something that's actually quite separate from the Brexit argument. May's position is severely restricted by the tiny majority the Conservatives got in the election - made even smaller by her (quite reasonable imo) decision to hole another election; losing the overall majority and having to do a (very dodgy!) deal to stay in power!

This, we had our say not only in EU ref 2016 but also in 2015 because an in/out EU ref was in Camerons manifesto and we voted that into power alone (not in coalition....unfortunately), UK public gave him the mandate. No-one to blame but ourselves.
However I do blame Labour for putting Ed Milliand up as leader instead of his brother, fairly inept he was (remember the stone tablet of promises!). So who did they replace him with.... Corbyn....couldn't make it up! SNPs successes have also not helped Labour of course.
No second EU vote, just get on with Brexit, if it's terrible it's our own fault for voting it in. If it's great....then great.

 

[Crazyface]

This, we had our say not only in EU ref 2016 but also in 2015 because an in/out EU ref was in Camerons manifesto and we voted that into power alone (not in coalition....unfortunately), UK public gave him the mandate. No-one to blame but ourselves.
However I do blame Labour for putting Ed Milliand up as leader instead of his brother, fairly inept he was (remember the stone tablet of promises!). So who did they replace him with.... Corbyn....couldn't make it up! SNPs successes have also not helped Labour of course.
No second EU vote, just get on with Brexit, if it's terrible it's our own fault for voting it in. If it's great....then great.

Spot on. Camerons problem was that he wasn't in touch with his voters. My guess is that this is where the most of the out vote came from.

 

[IanM]

Exactly how many votes should we have?

Answer (accdording to politicos) : As many as it takes till you plebs vote the way you were supposed to.

 

[jp5]

Farage did say that a 52-48 result would be unfinished business, so is a tad hypocritical for him to bemoan those wanting a say on the final deal.

I don't really want another vote but not sure why the Leave lot are so petrified of it. Surely they trust that the people will make the right judgment on the final deal?

 

[MegaSteve]

Farage did say that a 52-48 result would be unfinished business, so is a tad hypocritical for him to bemoan those wanting a say on the final deal.

I don't really want another vote but not sure why the Leave lot are so petrified of it. Surely they trust that the people will make the right judgment on the final deal?

Petrified?... Nope! Frustrated?... Highly!

You can have as many votes, you feel necessary, once the first vote has been enacted...
Which doesn't seem unreasonable to me...

 

[jp5]

Petrified?... Nope! Frustrated?... Highly!

You can have as many votes, you feel necessary, once the first vote has been enacted...
Which doesn't seem unreasonable to me...

Which is fair enough. The problem is there is no consensus on what constitutes enacting the first referendum. Seeing a lot of commentary saying that Mrs May's plan would constitute "Brexit In Name Only" and not satisfy the vote.

 

[bluewolf]

Twaddle!

You really are just a tiny little man aren't you? I'm guessing you didn't get enough bitty as a child........

 

[OnTour]

Best of 5 surely. rock paper scissors surely next vote for prime minister should be best of 3 etc.

votes done except it move on.

 

[Kellfire]

Best of 5 surely. rock paper scissors surely next vote for prime minister should be best of 3 etc.

votes done except it move on.

I'd love us to except the first vote, but sadly we'll have to accept it.

 

[SocketRocket]

I'd love us to except the first vote, but sadly we'll have to accept it.

Cheap remark.